Wait and see,

There would be riots in the quad if disqualifications of the nature you suggest actually did occur...

@ Wait and See;

Keep in mind if complaints result in disqualification, and the decisions are appealed, the board is the final level of appeal. So if Comrie and Pullman were to act inappropriately as you imply, there is recourse. I personally don't feel that they would, nor that there were any offenses committed that should result in disqualification.

pity that people couldn't spare the extra four bucks for the uvss to have a little more cash to work with. oh well, guess we need those two extra cups of coffee more than they do.

I wish Renew had been open about many of their members being card carrying Young Liberals. How vile.

@Shannon,

Many of the candidates on Renew are very open about being members of the Young Liberal Club. They've often been quoted in the Martlet, in blogs, or been seen hosting events. UVIC YL is one of the most active politically inclined club on campus that gets involved in campus community and promoting the Liberal Party. How is it vile that they are passionate about what they believe in? It was never "hidden". Get over yourself.

@Shannon:

Yeah, because Veronica and Heather totally haven't campaigned openly for the NDP provincially AND federally before. To say nothing of all the past members of Team FAST such as Caitlin Meggs, Tracy Ho and Ed Pullman.

Well Shannon does have a point, though I would save vile for the NDP. The Liberals party is just the evolution of corruption, as follows:

Lie, Libel, Liberal

But vile, that is reserved for NDP socialists.

All politicians suck, it's up to us to choose the ones who suck the least!

PS: Congrats Renew! You guys definitely suck the least ;) ;) ;)

Generally asking more money for past mistakes is much easier than to make precise plans to avoid same mistakes in future. The issue is not $2 dollars contribution which wrongly compared by many people as a price for a cup of coffee. The issue is wrong management that has been existed for a long period of time. Even in a larger context, like the U.S presidential election, Americans chose Obama for CHANGE. But in a smaller context like our student society, some people reject Change, due to their friendship with SUB managements. Contribution of $2 dollars is just a temporary solution. We need a long-term solution. People need to learn from previous mistakes and try to reform the system accordingly. A systematic change can only happen when we accept that some people are incompetent to operate SUB managements. If Americans decided to go with Change that does not necessarily mean that the previous administration was not effective or useless. The change was needed because as society moves forward, new people with new ideas and skills are needed to clean up previous mistakes and past errors. As long as we decide to stick with old administration, $2 dollars contribution will only open more doors and opportunities for people to make more mistakes and definitely will provide assurance that the temporary revenue will cover their mistakes for few more years. I am happy that the $2 reform did not pass, so at least for once Marne Jensen and her team are not going to get assurance for their mistakes for at least one more year.

@Aria

You're right for the most part. I totally agree that the historically incompetent management of the SUB (ie. Marne) should either get fired or whipped into shape, and they do not deserve more of our money.

However, I voted for the increase and encouraged everyone I know to do the same. Why? Because if it didn't pass, we would find ourselves in a structural deficit and services would have to be cut.

This is the current problem, as you can see :(

What services? If most people don't know what they are, they should be cut.

Well, the main question is; why do we have a HUGE deficit? The answer to this question is simple: POOR MANAGEMENT. Yes, if it's needed then services should be cut, then it's possible that students' representatives start thinking about reforming the management. What I don't understand is why should we stick with the old management and people like Marne in our student society? Why should we resist Change?

@ Carlton Banks:

The difference is Veronica Harrison and Heather McKenzie are open about who they support (NDP, CFS). Renew was hiding who they support. James Coccola was asked in one of my classes "If you had to relate to a political party, which one would it be" and he simply deflected the question. If they are made up of a large majority of Young Liberals (which they are) at least have the balls to say you are Liberal. Furthermore, when asked about the CFS, Renew would say they are "pro-referendum" when in actuality many of their members are decidedly anti-CFS.

I concur with Sheldon when did it become a four letter word to be a young liberal or a young NDPer in student politics?

Everyone that has ever been elected to the UVSS board, or for that matter municipal politics at a more macroscopic level, has brought their political partisanship to play when carrying out their duties as an elected official. Being a member of the conservatives, NDP, Liberals or Greens for that matter should not be equated to having skeletons in the closet. To expect that upon election every candidate elect will be completely neutral and drop their political party afilliation is laughable.

When it comes to serving on the UVSS Board of Directors, which I can say from personal experience as a former Director at Large for the 2008-2009 school year, it is not about being a political partisan but rather it is about being a trustee/representative for your constituents who put you into power. Never forget this.

When I think back over the course of recent political history, all the best politicans no matter what their political stripe, where able to put their dogmatic beliefs aside to do what was best for the voters and the country. Pierre Trudeau fought to keep the country together as a strong federalist, when some interests within his party would have been just as happy to cut Quebec free after the nightmare of the FLQ Crisis. The same can be said about President Obama, while many in the Democratic party are soundly against Health Care reform for fear of being defeaten in the upcoming midterm congressional elections, he has stayed the course which is admirable. Obama has done so because he understands that the prosperity and security of the individual and his or her family, trumps the profit interest of the Insurance Corporation.

I will conclude my statement by reminding the readers of this blog post, of the: words, wisdom and actions of Tommy Douglas. As the founder of the CCF (predecessor to the NDP) and Saskatchewan Premier, he never let his religious or political views come in the way of doing what was right for his constituents. As the creator of Universalized Health Care in Saskatchewan and later a strong advocate for the extension of free health care coverage to all Canadians, which after implemented by Prime Minister Pearson, has become an integral part of our national identity, he is quite simply a model politican that I hope the recent UVSS directors elect emulate during their term in office.

Simply put, don't act selfishly while on the UVSS board of directors to get the front page coverage in the Martlet, but rather I implore to act and 'direct' while on the UVSS board from your heart. Due what you believe to be is right, give YPY the funding they deserve and do not yield to party whips within your slate. You are your own person.

Lastly to those candidates that did not get elected during the election, just because you didn't win doesn't mean you can't get involved with the UVSS. You can make a difference by being a strong voice on the UVSS committees: ERC, Finance, Organizational Development, Armed with Understand and or Communications. You don't need a title to affect change, you just have to have a will and desire to make the University of Victoria a better place.

@ Mike:

That's because Renew actually does want a referendum. Regardless of the political views of the individual members of Renew (and whether they are pro- or anti-CFS), if students vote to remain in the CFS, they will respect it. If they want out, the new board will work to uphold that decision.

Procedurally, that's how a student society works. The board is not the highest power in the UVSS, it merely directs the activities and (mis)manages the funding of the society. The students are the final voice – that's why WE vote the board in.

And the new board intends to respect the true meaning of a student society by going to what Veronica herself has called the "highest decision making body" (student referendum) to determine whether we should leave the CFS or whether we should stay.

Just be thankful it now requires 4,000 signatures to even have a vote (if UVic is fortunate enough to be one of the four member schools that get to hold a referendum that year.

Who the fucking fuck cares what their "political affiliations" are? All that matters is their ability to run our student society competently, something which has not been done for the entire time I've been at UVic. Once they have our own business/money/policies in order, THEN we can worry about broader social issues.

"Furthermore, when asked about the CFS, Renew would say they are "pro-referendum" when in actuality many of their members are decidedly anti-CFS."

ReNew was not trying to be evasive with this. Not everyone of the slate was pro-defederation. James did not want to make anyone take a stance they didn't agree with. Pro-referendum is an accurate representation of where the slate stood on the issue.