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CFS still lobbies for change, despite criticism

Nov 04, 2009 | Volume 62 Issue 13 | 52 Comments
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UVSS members show off petitions from the latest CFS-BC campaign, “Education Shouldn’t Be a Debt Sentence.”

UVSS members show off petitions from the latest CFS-BC campaign, “Education Shouldn’t Be a Debt Sentence.”

John Thompson

“Education Shouldn’t Be a Debt Sentence.” That is one campaign the Canadian Federation of Students B.C. (CFS-BC) launched this past October, targeting the growing debate that the CFS’s lobbying efforts have fallen short.

The debt campaign, which was unanimously adopted by members of CFS-BC at their Annual General Meeting (AGM), contains four demands: the establishment of a student grants program, tuition fee reduction, an increase to core funding and the elimination of interest on B.C. student loans.

“Student debt has really skyrocketed in the last eight years,” said CFS-BC chairperson Shamus Reid, referring back to when the provincial government lifted a freeze on tuition. “We’re looking to see the government committing to some action for the next three years.”

Student members of CFS-BC have been circulating a petition and have letters available at debtsentence.ca that students can send to their MLAs and to Minister of Advanced Education Moira Stilwell. Reid says sending the letters will create pressure on the government to act.

In 2004, CFS-BC gathered 40,000 signatures and the government “did a 180” on their approach to post-secondary education, he said.

“The work we’ve been doing over the past eight years has really built public support,” said Reid.

Reid also says that CFS-BC will bring the four-point plan to local MLAs and to Stilwell.

“Ultimately, we’ll be coordinating (as a federation) meetings with local MLA’s,” said Reid.

The campaign is an example of lobbying efforts by the CFS-BC, who also run the “We Ride” campaign to improve transit.

CFS also lobbies on the national level. During the recent Lobby Day on Parliament Hill (which takes place during the federal government’s budget consultation period), the CFS presented members of Parliament and the Senate with its “Canada’s Education Action Plan,” a tongue-in-cheek play on the federal government’s Economic Action Plan.

According to CFS National Chair Katherine Giroux-Bougard, student representatives from across the country came to Ottawa and met with more than 150 Members of Parliament and the Senate.

The student representatives presented five key recommendations: step in and take leadership in post secondary education, improve research capablities of post-secondary education (such as having Statistics Canada research effective policies in increasing access to education), increase the money going in to the new Canada student grant program, increase funding for Canadian graduate scholarships and increase funding for the program that increases Aboriginal students’ access to education.

“I think the lobby week was actually quite successful and it really highlighted the fact that post-secondary education isn’t an issue of the left or the right,” said Giroux-Bougard. “Members of all parties were very supportive of recommendations put forth by the federation.”

However, the effectiveness of the CFS’ lobbying efforts has been a topic of debate lately. Several campuses across the country are circulating petitions to hold a referendum on CFS membership. Many of the organizers of the petitions have criticized the CFS as being an ineffective lobbying organization.

One criticism has been that the leftist nature of the CFS alienates the organization from the current Liberal provincial government. However, Reid says this is not the case.

“The provincial government largely alienated itself from students when it doubled tuition fees,” he said.

However, he says pressure from CFS-BC caused the government to reinvest in post-secondary education after removing the tuition freeze.

“Governments respond to public pressure,” Reid said.

Reid added the CFS has a well-established, long-term relationship with the government that allows them to arrange meetings with MLAs, despite not being registered as a lobby group in B.C.

Reid refutes the claim that the CFS is ineffective, and adds that the organization’s strength comes from its numbers.

“Essentially, what we are is the framework that student unions have developed to work with on a democratic basis,” he said. “We’re less effective if we’re not united.”

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  • Samantha Nov. 5, 2009, 2:31 a.m.

    A tongue-in-cheek play on the federal government’s Economic Action Plan and a petition are not synonymous with effective lobbying, you lost points there. You specially lost points because by the look of it you have a a tongue-in-cheek play on the federal government’s Economic Action Plan and a petition to account for the several hundred thousands of student dollars you get every year. Is that all you got to show? I hope for your own corporate survival that such is not the case.

    I personally like the accountability of RESULTS.

    Get it together and put your money where your mouth is CFS, but not with my money. You've lost me.

  • Samantha Nov. 5, 2009, 2:31 a.m.

    A tongue-in-cheek play on the federal government’s Economic Action Plan and a petition are not synonymous with effective lobbying, you lost points there. You specially lost points because by the look of it you have a a tongue-in-cheek play on the federal government’s Economic Action Plan and a petition to account for the several hundred thousands of student dollars you get every year. Is that all you got to show? I hope for your own corporate survival that such is not the case.

    I personally like the accountability of RESULTS.

    Get it together and put your money where your mouth is CFS, but not with my money. You've lost me.

  • Michelle Nov. 5, 2009, 2:40 a.m.

    Guys, I thought we already went over the fact that glossy pins and posters have obviously not been enough. They have not been effective for the last 10 years and they are simply not enough. The commercialization and trademarking of slogans is NOT lobbying. What's up with the CFS not even being a registered Lobbying group? Isn't that what they claim they've been doing with everyone's money?

  • Michelle Nov. 5, 2009, 2:40 a.m.

    Guys, I thought we already went over the fact that glossy pins and posters have obviously not been enough. They have not been effective for the last 10 years and they are simply not enough. The commercialization and trademarking of slogans is NOT lobbying. What's up with the CFS not even being a registered Lobbying group? Isn't that what they claim they've been doing with everyone's money?

  • Malcolm L Nov. 5, 2009, 2:54 a.m.

    I really think David hit the nail on the head with this article concerning this doomed campaign.

    http://eyeontheuvss.blogspot.com/2009/11/jury-still-out-on-debt-sentence.html

  • Malcolm L Nov. 5, 2009, 2:54 a.m.

    I really think David hit the nail on the head with this article concerning this doomed campaign.

    http://eyeontheuvss.blogspot.com/2009/11/jury-still-out-on-debt-sentence.html

  • M Nov. 5, 2009, 3:27 a.m.

    I think you guys are forgetting about:

    National System of Grants Tuition Free Adult Basic Education The right of International Students to Work off Campus Tuition Fee Cap (from a government that said it would not regulation tuition fees)

    On a personal level I have greatly benefitted from the recently established National System of grants and I think it is great they are pushing the BC government to establish a provincial grants program.

  • M Nov. 5, 2009, 3:27 a.m.

    I think you guys are forgetting about:

    National System of Grants Tuition Free Adult Basic Education The right of International Students to Work off Campus Tuition Fee Cap (from a government that said it would not regulation tuition fees)

    On a personal level I have greatly benefitted from the recently established National System of grants and I think it is great they are pushing the BC government to establish a provincial grants program.

  • M Nov. 5, 2009, 3:28 a.m.

    Sorry the list came out a little wonky:) Here is is again.

    National System of Grants

    Tuition Free Adult Basic Education

    The right of International Students to Work off Campus

    Tuition Fee Cap (from a government that said it would not regulation tuition fees)

  • M Nov. 5, 2009, 3:28 a.m.

    Sorry the list came out a little wonky:) Here is is again.

    National System of Grants

    Tuition Free Adult Basic Education

    The right of International Students to Work off Campus

    Tuition Fee Cap (from a government that said it would not regulation tuition fees)

  • Don't drink the kool aid... Nov. 5, 2009, 3:33 a.m.

    Funny how this article failed to address the second petition going around with this one. The one that aims to quash free speech and the democratic process by attempting to stop students from even HAVING A VOTE on our membership in the CFS.

  • Don't drink the kool aid... Nov. 5, 2009, 3:33 a.m.

    Funny how this article failed to address the second petition going around with this one. The one that aims to quash free speech and the democratic process by attempting to stop students from even HAVING A VOTE on our membership in the CFS.

  • Amanda Nov. 5, 2009, 7:09 a.m.

    I'm curious to know how many Liberal MLAs Shamus has succeeded in meeting with after this past election. The CFS's Vote Education campaign was very critical of the BC Liberals and burned a lot of bridges. How can the CFS lobby effectively if they can't even get a meeting with the Government?

  • Amanda Nov. 5, 2009, 7:09 a.m.

    I'm curious to know how many Liberal MLAs Shamus has succeeded in meeting with after this past election. The CFS's Vote Education campaign was very critical of the BC Liberals and burned a lot of bridges. How can the CFS lobby effectively if they can't even get a meeting with the Government?

  • Emily Nov. 5, 2009, 7:20 a.m.

    It never ceases to amaze me what the CFS will claim as a victory.

    During the Day of Action in 2004, the CFS was campaigning for a significant reduction in tuition fees (30% I believe). In 2005 the BC Government enacted its current plan to limit raising tuition at the rate of inflation.

    Nowhere near to what they campaigned for but evidently it's enough for the CFS to take credit.

  • Emily Nov. 5, 2009, 7:20 a.m.

    It never ceases to amaze me what the CFS will claim as a victory.

    During the Day of Action in 2004, the CFS was campaigning for a significant reduction in tuition fees (30% I believe). In 2005 the BC Government enacted its current plan to limit raising tuition at the rate of inflation.

    Nowhere near to what they campaigned for but evidently it's enough for the CFS to take credit.

  • John Nov. 5, 2009, 11:50 a.m.

    Why is this article in the News Section, instead of in the Opinions Section where it belongs?

  • John Nov. 5, 2009, 11:50 a.m.

    Why is this article in the News Section, instead of in the Opinions Section where it belongs?

  • Jackie Nov. 5, 2009, 11:55 a.m.

    Yet another shining example of why the Martlet is trash.

  • Jackie Nov. 5, 2009, 11:55 a.m.

    Yet another shining example of why the Martlet is trash.

  • Matt O Nov. 5, 2009, 3:24 p.m.

    It's a shame that no one from the pro-defederation side was asked to comment. All we really get here is a fluff piece on the anti-defeders without any mention of the misleading second petition or the structural problems inherent in the CFS.

  • Matt O Nov. 5, 2009, 3:24 p.m.

    It's a shame that no one from the pro-defederation side was asked to comment. All we really get here is a fluff piece on the anti-defeders without any mention of the misleading second petition or the structural problems inherent in the CFS.

  • Sara Nov. 5, 2009, 4:12 p.m.

    Why would anti-CFS people be contacted for this article? It's not about membership, it's about a campaign that our elected representatives at the UVSS are working on with the CFS.

    Some of you were arguing: 1)You never see the CFS do anything

    2) You always see the CFS doing stuff and you don't like it because they should be working on things that you can't see, like lobbying.

    If you want the CFS to be more obvious is what they're Actually Doing with your money, you must mean you want more of these kinds of events. If you want more quiet work like lobbying, you won't have an opportunity to see them in action. What is it that you actually what?

  • Sara Nov. 5, 2009, 4:12 p.m.

    Why would anti-CFS people be contacted for this article? It's not about membership, it's about a campaign that our elected representatives at the UVSS are working on with the CFS.

    Some of you were arguing: 1)You never see the CFS do anything

    2) You always see the CFS doing stuff and you don't like it because they should be working on things that you can't see, like lobbying.

    If you want the CFS to be more obvious is what they're Actually Doing with your money, you must mean you want more of these kinds of events. If you want more quiet work like lobbying, you won't have an opportunity to see them in action. What is it that you actually what?

  • Matt O Nov. 5, 2009, 5:10 p.m.

    The CFS is under intense criticism right now. This photo-op was clearly designed with the intent of trying to build support for it -- that being the case, the pro-defederation side should have had the opportunity to respond.

    The CFS has turned into nothing but a bloated, corporate entity posing as a grass roots advocacy group. Look up the 'iron law of oligarchy' for a good understanding of how the CFS operates.

    In solidarity (but for real), Matt O Part of the real student movement -- not the one that sues its own members.

  • Matt O Nov. 5, 2009, 5:10 p.m.

    The CFS is under intense criticism right now. This photo-op was clearly designed with the intent of trying to build support for it -- that being the case, the pro-defederation side should have had the opportunity to respond.

    The CFS has turned into nothing but a bloated, corporate entity posing as a grass roots advocacy group. Look up the 'iron law of oligarchy' for a good understanding of how the CFS operates.

    In solidarity (but for real), Matt O Part of the real student movement -- not the one that sues its own members.

  • H Nov. 5, 2009, 6:07 p.m.

    Matt, In some of your photo op's with the drop-cfs campaign... was the other side contacted to give them an opportunity to comment.

    It's sad how hypocritical you are. I see you in the pictures... but i don't see you insisting that the Pro-CFS side be contacted for a comment.

    So shut it. Stop blowing EVERYTHING out of proportion. Not everything that you don't believe in is evil. Not everything is out to get you. Not everything is some plot to take over.

    You're part of a student movement.. Real can be genuine, sincere, or something that just exists.

    so every movement is real.

  • H Nov. 5, 2009, 6:07 p.m.

    Matt, In some of your photo op's with the drop-cfs campaign... was the other side contacted to give them an opportunity to comment.

    It's sad how hypocritical you are. I see you in the pictures... but i don't see you insisting that the Pro-CFS side be contacted for a comment.

    So shut it. Stop blowing EVERYTHING out of proportion. Not everything that you don't believe in is evil. Not everything is out to get you. Not everything is some plot to take over.

    You're part of a student movement.. Real can be genuine, sincere, or something that just exists.

    so every movement is real.

  • N Nov. 5, 2009, 6:45 p.m.

    Matt O - If your problem is that the CFS wastes money, you have access to the CFS financial documents at the student society office and can suggest to the 2 or 3 CFS executives at the UVSS what changes or cuts you would like to see.

  • N Nov. 5, 2009, 6:45 p.m.

    Matt O - If your problem is that the CFS wastes money, you have access to the CFS financial documents at the student society office and can suggest to the 2 or 3 CFS executives at the UVSS what changes or cuts you would like to see.

  • David Foster Nov. 5, 2009, 7:55 p.m.

    This article is about the CFS campaign it's not pro-CFS. The last one Kailey wrote about the defederation movement: http://www.martlet.ca/article/20112-petition-questions-future-of-uvic-s Meaghan Kerr wrote a letter complaining it was overly biased AGAINST the CFS: http://www.martlet.ca/article/20167-letters-to-the-editor and some of these comments are claiming this new article is biased toward the CFS? Come on, this is not bias, if the article is ABOUT a CFS campaign it will focus on those behind the campaign. You don't see representivatives from VANOC interviewed every time the Martlet does an article on No 2010 Victoria. I was accused by some readers of writing a biased article on the pro-life club Youth Protecting Youth being denied funding: http://www.martlet.ca/article/20113-ypy-denied-club-funding-again even though I did quote both UVSS directors who apposed funding and ones who supported funding-apparently I should have quoted someone from the Students for Choice Club (though I was not told to do so.) The way I saw it though my article was ABOUT YPY, which were being denied funding, not about Students for Choice-nothing newsworthy was happening to their club.

    None of the three articles I've mentioned are biased they are simply focusing on what is newsworthy. That being said there is plenty of leeway for journalists to decide what to include; the limitation is usually time and column inches. Kailey and I are both doing our best to cover the issues. If you don't like what Martlet writers are doing you're always welcome to volunteer and write for the Martlet, as well.

  • David Foster Nov. 5, 2009, 7:55 p.m.

    This article is about the CFS campaign it's not pro-CFS. The last one Kailey wrote about the defederation movement: http://www.martlet.ca/article/20112-petition-questions-future-of-uvic-s Meaghan Kerr wrote a letter complaining it was overly biased AGAINST the CFS: http://www.martlet.ca/article/20167-letters-to-the-editor and some of these comments are claiming this new article is biased toward the CFS? Come on, this is not bias, if the article is ABOUT a CFS campaign it will focus on those behind the campaign. You don't see representivatives from VANOC interviewed every time the Martlet does an article on No 2010 Victoria. I was accused by some readers of writing a biased article on the pro-life club Youth Protecting Youth being denied funding: http://www.martlet.ca/article/20113-ypy-denied-club-funding-again even though I did quote both UVSS directors who apposed funding and ones who supported funding-apparently I should have quoted someone from the Students for Choice Club (though I was not told to do so.) The way I saw it though my article was ABOUT YPY, which were being denied funding, not about Students for Choice-nothing newsworthy was happening to their club.

    None of the three articles I've mentioned are biased they are simply focusing on what is newsworthy. That being said there is plenty of leeway for journalists to decide what to include; the limitation is usually time and column inches. Kailey and I are both doing our best to cover the issues. If you don't like what Martlet writers are doing you're always welcome to volunteer and write for the Martlet, as well.

  • Kelsey H Nov. 5, 2009, 8:27 p.m.

    Sorry Matt, David's right. Pwned.

  • Kelsey H Nov. 5, 2009, 8:27 p.m.

    Sorry Matt, David's right. Pwned.

  • Yikes! Nov. 5, 2009, 8:28 p.m.

    Despite the cuts to other programs, I'm sure the B.C. Liberals will come rushing to the aid of students (who tend not to vote).

    ... Was anyone else traumatized by the above photo?

  • Yikes! Nov. 5, 2009, 8:28 p.m.

    Despite the cuts to other programs, I'm sure the B.C. Liberals will come rushing to the aid of students (who tend not to vote).

    ... Was anyone else traumatized by the above photo?

  • Andrew A Nov. 5, 2009, 9:34 p.m.

    Reid refutes the claim that the CFS is ineffective, and adds that the organization’s strength comes from its numbers.

    Shamus Reid is correct that numbers are what makes lobbying effective. The numbers, however, show why the CFS is ineffective.

    The bottom line: Students don't vote in high enough numbers to give Government much incentive to listen to their demands.

    In the most recent Provincial election, 80% of people 55+ voted, accounting for 49% of the total votes. Less than 25% of young people bother to vote in any given election. With half the votes coming from those 55+, Government is going to cater to their needs instead.

    There are 3.2 million voters in BC. CFS-BC represents 120 000 of them (of which vast majority don't vote). This reality means, more often than not, the CFS's efforts will be ineffective.

  • Andrew A Nov. 5, 2009, 9:34 p.m.

    Reid refutes the claim that the CFS is ineffective, and adds that the organization’s strength comes from its numbers.

    Shamus Reid is correct that numbers are what makes lobbying effective. The numbers, however, show why the CFS is ineffective.

    The bottom line: Students don't vote in high enough numbers to give Government much incentive to listen to their demands.

    In the most recent Provincial election, 80% of people 55+ voted, accounting for 49% of the total votes. Less than 25% of young people bother to vote in any given election. With half the votes coming from those 55+, Government is going to cater to their needs instead.

    There are 3.2 million voters in BC. CFS-BC represents 120 000 of them (of which vast majority don't vote). This reality means, more often than not, the CFS's efforts will be ineffective.

  • Realistic Campaigns Nov. 6, 2009, 1:48 a.m.

    So... Here's my question to these people. How much money would it cost the government to pay for all their demands? And what tax raises should occur in order for the provincial government to pay for them?

    The lack of any accounting figures for HOW much it would cost to pay for this campaign is unthinkable. I'm sorry to break it you, but there are two ways to allocate money to something in government: Cut it from somewhere else (health care, etc.) or generate new revenue to pay for it. The fact that the CFS-BC provide no method for how the government plans to pay for this campaign is unjustifiable and goes to show how they're wasting everyones time.

    And considering that the CFS-BC NEVER thanks the government for doing anything progressive at all on education spending, and you get an idea of why they are so tone deaf to this organization (do you really think another set of a couple thousand petitions will really change policy?... really?).

  • Realistic Campaigns Nov. 6, 2009, 1:48 a.m.

    So... Here's my question to these people. How much money would it cost the government to pay for all their demands? And what tax raises should occur in order for the provincial government to pay for them?

    The lack of any accounting figures for HOW much it would cost to pay for this campaign is unthinkable. I'm sorry to break it you, but there are two ways to allocate money to something in government: Cut it from somewhere else (health care, etc.) or generate new revenue to pay for it. The fact that the CFS-BC provide no method for how the government plans to pay for this campaign is unjustifiable and goes to show how they're wasting everyones time.

    And considering that the CFS-BC NEVER thanks the government for doing anything progressive at all on education spending, and you get an idea of why they are so tone deaf to this organization (do you really think another set of a couple thousand petitions will really change policy?... really?).

  • Kelsey Banana Nov. 7, 2009, 7:21 p.m.

    I am such a silly goose.

  • Kelsey Banana Nov. 7, 2009, 7:21 p.m.

    I am such a silly goose.

  • daesonesb Nov. 8, 2009, 1:09 p.m.

    With healthcare costs rising on a yearly basis, where is the money coming from to cut tuition prices? Increasing taxes? Cutting other programs? I'd really like to hear a few specifics, as I'm all for paying less tuition, but mystified about how it will get much lower than it is now.

  • daesonesb Nov. 8, 2009, 1:09 p.m.

    With healthcare costs rising on a yearly basis, where is the money coming from to cut tuition prices? Increasing taxes? Cutting other programs? I'd really like to hear a few specifics, as I'm all for paying less tuition, but mystified about how it will get much lower than it is now.

  • cait Nov. 8, 2009, 6:01 p.m.

    For those who complain that 'glossy posters and slogans' don't do anything, I'm wondering what they would like to see as an alternative? And how are these campaigns commercialized? No one is trying to make money off of them. Provincial level lobbying is in no way a threat to grassroots organizing, and both are needed and useful.

    Most people can recognize that when you lobby you are putting pressure on a government and letting them know there are voting people out there that care about education issues. No one would realistically expect for the lobby to get their way immediately or to have all of their demands answered. It takes a lot of effort over a long time, and the results are not easily quantifiable. But every time a government goes to increase tuition fees or the interest on student loans they at least have to think twice because they are aware there are people organized who will make a huge public stink over the issue.

    I for one am pretty convinced that the BC Liberals would not have frozen tuition fee increases at inflation if it weren't for the huge mobilization after the tuition fee increases. It might not be everything we wanted- but it is still helping lots of students be able to afford an education today, and it has kept the cost of tuition lower then it would otherwise be.

    Its crazy to complain about ineffective lobbying, and then ask to leave the organization. How can the lobbying improve if there is no organization left at all? Students will be left with very little.

  • cait Nov. 8, 2009, 6:01 p.m.

    For those who complain that 'glossy posters and slogans' don't do anything, I'm wondering what they would like to see as an alternative? And how are these campaigns commercialized? No one is trying to make money off of them. Provincial level lobbying is in no way a threat to grassroots organizing, and both are needed and useful.

    Most people can recognize that when you lobby you are putting pressure on a government and letting them know there are voting people out there that care about education issues. No one would realistically expect for the lobby to get their way immediately or to have all of their demands answered. It takes a lot of effort over a long time, and the results are not easily quantifiable. But every time a government goes to increase tuition fees or the interest on student loans they at least have to think twice because they are aware there are people organized who will make a huge public stink over the issue.

    I for one am pretty convinced that the BC Liberals would not have frozen tuition fee increases at inflation if it weren't for the huge mobilization after the tuition fee increases. It might not be everything we wanted- but it is still helping lots of students be able to afford an education today, and it has kept the cost of tuition lower then it would otherwise be.

    Its crazy to complain about ineffective lobbying, and then ask to leave the organization. How can the lobbying improve if there is no organization left at all? Students will be left with very little.

  • Chelsea Nov. 9, 2009, 12:48 a.m.

    You seem to assume, Cait, that the CFS has a monopoly on lobbying on issues affecting students. Let's not forget that the two largest student unions in the Province, UBC and SFU, are not members of the CFS yet still continue to lobby on behalf of students.

    Considering the bridges the CFS burnt with the Vote Education campaign, I wouldn't be surprised if those student unions had more luck in meeting with MLA's than the CFS executives.

  • Chelsea Nov. 9, 2009, 12:48 a.m.

    You seem to assume, Cait, that the CFS has a monopoly on lobbying on issues affecting students. Let's not forget that the two largest student unions in the Province, UBC and SFU, are not members of the CFS yet still continue to lobby on behalf of students.

    Considering the bridges the CFS burnt with the Vote Education campaign, I wouldn't be surprised if those student unions had more luck in meeting with MLA's than the CFS executives.

  • Trevor Nov. 18, 2009, 1:24 p.m.

    People ARE making money off the CFS Campaigns. CFS executives have carved out a great jobs for themseleves, where they aren't responsible or accountable to anyone and they don't ever have to produce results.

  • Trevor Nov. 18, 2009, 1:24 p.m.

    People ARE making money off the CFS Campaigns. CFS executives have carved out a great jobs for themseleves, where they aren't responsible or accountable to anyone and they don't ever have to produce results.

  • Kevin Dec. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m.

    The CFS is broken and can’t be fixed by Jan Gunn, Karen McAthy, and Yasmin Irani, former CFS insiders who have chosen to speak out, years after their involvement. The CFS is broken – badly - and it cannot be changed from the inside. “Bad people don’t make a bad organization.” — that’s what we believed for a long time about the Canadian Federation of Students. The idea of a national student organization is a sound one. Of course we should coordinate a national lobbying strategy. Of course we should work in concert with students from all parts of Canada. The CFS, contrary to the opinions of some, cannot be reformed – it is too late. What evidence do we have to make this claim? We are three women, now in our thirties, who are still (or once again) students. All of us have been, at one time or another, elected directors at the Simon Fraser Student Society, all of us have been involved in at least one other CFS affiliated college student association, and all of us have been members of the CFS BC execu- tive committee. Our combined experience goes back to 1995. Simply put, we have been “CFS insiders.” We don’t write this letter with clean hands either. We knowingly participated in manipula- tive, underhanded, and yes, sometimes corrupt dealings on behalf of the CFS within our own and other student unions. Our only excuse is youth and, at the time, a genuine belief in the purported goals of the CFS. It is difficult to describe how profoundly bad the CFS can be without sounding like a con- spiracy theorist. There is, however, a definite conspiracy within the CFS, and the fundamen- tal problem begins with the long-serving staff. In fact, when we say CFS we mean mostly the staffers – certainly not the membership, or even most of the elected officers. The real objective of the CFS is to perpetuate security of em- ployment for those staff. This is accomplished through maniacal and paranoid control over individual student unions (locals). The tool is progressive rhetoric combined with idealistic, itinerant activists. Young students who really want to make a change (ourselves included) are targeted and groomed for leadership positions within their Locals. Most are gone long before they begin to really feel the wrongness inherent in the CFS. Or they walk away in disgust. The CFS doesn’t trust students to elect direc- tors who will work constantly and at all times in the best interests of the CFS, so they regu- larly engage in campaigning for preferred can- didates in internal student union elections. The CFS BC provincial office staff have partici- pated in, directed and provided resources for students to get elected to their Boards. We were there. We saw it happen. We participated in those campaigns. CFS staff designed campaign posters, used CFS photocopiers, and utilized paid staff time to ensure preferred candidates were elected. As strong CFS supporters we were given unrestricted access to the BC office. On CFS BC computers we have seen election campaign materials from many student unions (including UVic and UBC) dating back several years. Support for candidates in elections ensures loyalty, which is then exploited in a number of ways. The most heinous of these are in staff hirings. Jobs at student union are used as a reward for loyalty to the CFS. Again, we know this because we participated in such hirings. We have taken orders from CFS headquarters (clarify – national or provincial) about who to hire or not to hire. Very recently a CFS staffer mistakenly released a confidential document containing CFS plans for hirings at Douglas and other student unions (The Peak, issue 18, vol. 34, February 18, 2008). We were at CFS Provincial Office when one soon-to-be SFSS staffer was having her resume padded. The resume had to be padded because the candidate did not have the necessary skills or experience for the job. However, for the CFS, competence/ experience is secondary to unfailing loyalty. We knowingly participated in manipulative, underhanded, and yes, sometimes corrupt dealings on behalf of the CFS within our own and other student unions. Our only excuse is youth and, at the time, a genuine belief in the purported goals of the CFS. CFS-loyal staff at student unions (especially colleges where students come and go quickly) regularly use their positions to manipulate the elected directors into enacting a pro-CFS agenda. At the Douglas Students’ Union, for example, a CFS-loyal staffer managed to embed language relating to the CFS into their Collective Agreement – a legally binding contract - the effect of which is to force the student union into sending staffers to national and provincial CFS general meetings. CFS- loyal staff are then able to control the votes of their student union local. These are considered “safe” locals by the CFS. And for the record, the SFSS is NOT a “safe” local within the CFS and no staff with a primary loyalty to the CFS are on the SFSS payroll. The national and provincial General Meet- ings are tightly controlled. During debates many of the strongest speakers in support of motions are CFS-loyal staff – and not the elected representatives. This lack of trust and paranoid desire to control goes much deeper, though. Each of us has been asked by CFS staff to spy on delegates with known or suspected anti-CFS views. We have been asked to report back about who the suspect person was talking to and what they were saying. New delegates are often roomed with CFS loyalists in order to control their sphere of influence. We have been those roommates. Elections for national and provincial at- large CFS officers are precisely coordinated affairs at the General Meetings. The resumes of “chosen” candidates are often prepared by CFS staff. Candidates are assisted with their candidacy statements and prepped for debates by CFS staff. In our collective history (over 25 GMs between us) we have never seen a can- didate elected who wasn’t the predetermined choice of the CFS. These newly elected nation- al and provincial officers are in the best posi- tion to effect changes from the inside – they are after all, now the employer. However, they are also now making upwards of $30,000.00 a year, more money than they’ve probably ever made. And they owe it all to the CFS staff who got them elected in the first place. How can we then expect these people to effectively manage CFS staff? We have chosen not to name individual staff or directors because the CFS is a very litigious organization. They regularly threaten lawsuits against student newspapers (as The Peak well knows) and vocal opponents (or a loyal fol- lower does it by proxy). The SFSS is currently in receipt of a vaguely threatening letter from CFS lawyers relating to the upcoming defed- eration referendum. The CFS has almost inex- plicably sought a court injunction to postpone the Kwantlen Students’ Association defedera- tion referendum. The CFS does not have a monopoly on solidarity. It is possible to work with other non-CFS student unions on unified campaigns and lobbying. There are many, many people who have worked with the CFS and left the organization because of its toxic culture. Bad people are making the organization bad. We encourage the current young supporters of the CFS to look up former CFS chairs, past SFSS directors, or people in progressive politics (not just the Young New Democrats) and have private conversations with them about the CFS. Our experience says you will discover a differ- ent, and rather negative take on how the CFS does business.

  • Kevin Dec. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m.

    The CFS is broken and can’t be fixed by Jan Gunn, Karen McAthy, and Yasmin Irani, former CFS insiders who have chosen to speak out, years after their involvement. The CFS is broken – badly - and it cannot be changed from the inside. “Bad people don’t make a bad organization.” — that’s what we believed for a long time about the Canadian Federation of Students. The idea of a national student organization is a sound one. Of course we should coordinate a national lobbying strategy. Of course we should work in concert with students from all parts of Canada. The CFS, contrary to the opinions of some, cannot be reformed – it is too late. What evidence do we have to make this claim? We are three women, now in our thirties, who are still (or once again) students. All of us have been, at one time or another, elected directors at the Simon Fraser Student Society, all of us have been involved in at least one other CFS affiliated college student association, and all of us have been members of the CFS BC execu- tive committee. Our combined experience goes back to 1995. Simply put, we have been “CFS insiders.” We don’t write this letter with clean hands either. We knowingly participated in manipula- tive, underhanded, and yes, sometimes corrupt dealings on behalf of the CFS within our own and other student unions. Our only excuse is youth and, at the time, a genuine belief in the purported goals of the CFS. It is difficult to describe how profoundly bad the CFS can be without sounding like a con- spiracy theorist. There is, however, a definite conspiracy within the CFS, and the fundamen- tal problem begins with the long-serving staff. In fact, when we say CFS we mean mostly the staffers – certainly not the membership, or even most of the elected officers. The real objective of the CFS is to perpetuate security of em- ployment for those staff. This is accomplished through maniacal and paranoid control over individual student unions (locals). The tool is progressive rhetoric combined with idealistic, itinerant activists. Young students who really want to make a change (ourselves included) are targeted and groomed for leadership positions within their Locals. Most are gone long before they begin to really feel the wrongness inherent in the CFS. Or they walk away in disgust. The CFS doesn’t trust students to elect direc- tors who will work constantly and at all times in the best interests of the CFS, so they regu- larly engage in campaigning for preferred can- didates in internal student union elections. The CFS BC provincial office staff have partici- pated in, directed and provided resources for students to get elected to their Boards. We were there. We saw it happen. We participated in those campaigns. CFS staff designed campaign posters, used CFS photocopiers, and utilized paid staff time to ensure preferred candidates were elected. As strong CFS supporters we were given unrestricted access to the BC office. On CFS BC computers we have seen election campaign materials from many student unions (including UVic and UBC) dating back several years. Support for candidates in elections ensures loyalty, which is then exploited in a number of ways. The most heinous of these are in staff hirings. Jobs at student union are used as a reward for loyalty to the CFS. Again, we know this because we participated in such hirings. We have taken orders from CFS headquarters (clarify – national or provincial) about who to hire or not to hire. Very recently a CFS staffer mistakenly released a confidential document containing CFS plans for hirings at Douglas and other student unions (The Peak, issue 18, vol. 34, February 18, 2008). We were at CFS Provincial Office when one soon-to-be SFSS staffer was having her resume padded. The resume had to be padded because the candidate did not have the necessary skills or experience for the job. However, for the CFS, competence/ experience is secondary to unfailing loyalty. We knowingly participated in manipulative, underhanded, and yes, sometimes corrupt dealings on behalf of the CFS within our own and other student unions. Our only excuse is youth and, at the time, a genuine belief in the purported goals of the CFS. CFS-loyal staff at student unions (especially colleges where students come and go quickly) regularly use their positions to manipulate the elected directors into enacting a pro-CFS agenda. At the Douglas Students’ Union, for example, a CFS-loyal staffer managed to embed language relating to the CFS into their Collective Agreement – a legally binding contract - the effect of which is to force the student union into sending staffers to national and provincial CFS general meetings. CFS- loyal staff are then able to control the votes of their student union local. These are considered “safe” locals by the CFS. And for the record, the SFSS is NOT a “safe” local within the CFS and no staff with a primary loyalty to the CFS are on the SFSS payroll. The national and provincial General Meet- ings are tightly controlled. During debates many of the strongest speakers in support of motions are CFS-loyal staff – and not the elected representatives. This lack of trust and paranoid desire to control goes much deeper, though. Each of us has been asked by CFS staff to spy on delegates with known or suspected anti-CFS views. We have been asked to report back about who the suspect person was talking to and what they were saying. New delegates are often roomed with CFS loyalists in order to control their sphere of influence. We have been those roommates. Elections for national and provincial at- large CFS officers are precisely coordinated affairs at the General Meetings. The resumes of “chosen” candidates are often prepared by CFS staff. Candidates are assisted with their candidacy statements and prepped for debates by CFS staff. In our collective history (over 25 GMs between us) we have never seen a can- didate elected who wasn’t the predetermined choice of the CFS. These newly elected nation- al and provincial officers are in the best posi- tion to effect changes from the inside – they are after all, now the employer. However, they are also now making upwards of $30,000.00 a year, more money than they’ve probably ever made. And they owe it all to the CFS staff who got them elected in the first place. How can we then expect these people to effectively manage CFS staff? We have chosen not to name individual staff or directors because the CFS is a very litigious organization. They regularly threaten lawsuits against student newspapers (as The Peak well knows) and vocal opponents (or a loyal fol- lower does it by proxy). The SFSS is currently in receipt of a vaguely threatening letter from CFS lawyers relating to the upcoming defed- eration referendum. The CFS has almost inex- plicably sought a court injunction to postpone the Kwantlen Students’ Association defedera- tion referendum. The CFS does not have a monopoly on solidarity. It is possible to work with other non-CFS student unions on unified campaigns and lobbying. There are many, many people who have worked with the CFS and left the organization because of its toxic culture. Bad people are making the organization bad. We encourage the current young supporters of the CFS to look up former CFS chairs, past SFSS directors, or people in progressive politics (not just the Young New Democrats) and have private conversations with them about the CFS. Our experience says you will discover a differ- ent, and rather negative take on how the CFS does business.

 

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