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Petition threatens board

Sep 25, 2008 | Volume 61 Issue 8 | 13 Comments
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John Thompson

Hundreds of students have signed a petition to consider replacing elected members of the UVic Students’ Society Board of Directors in response to their inability to settle the wage dispute with unionized workers that has left workers picketing the Student Union Building.

The petition is the first step in bringing to referendum the question of whether students want to keep the current UVSS board.

“Sitting on the picket is a passive way to ask for what we want,” said José Barrios, a Munchie Bar employee in the lowest wage bracket, earning $9.95 (including vacation pay) before the strike. “[The petition] is a way to be more proactive and take a democratic approach, where students can all vote.”

Student workers such as Barrios are asking for a $1.50 raise immediately, while the employer, represented by the UVSS board, hasn’t offered more than a $1 raise over three years.

Neither the union nor the employer’s spokespeople think the petition or a subsequent vote to remove the board would help negotiations.

“Without the board, we’d have nobody to negotiate with,” said union spokesperson Ben Johnson. “The union has nothing whatsoever to do with the petition, and we don’t support it.”

Caitlin Meggs, UVSS chair and spokesperson for the employer, said bringing the question of removing the board to referendum should be reserved for when the board isn’t doing their job.

“I think it’s more of a threat, and that’s not the way bargaining should go,” said Meggs.

Though it only took Barrios and other students a few hours to collect signatures from over five per cent of the student body, as required to add the question to the UVSS Annual General Meeting scheduled for Oct. 16, he did not submit the petitions at the board meeting he was present at on Sept. 22 when the AGM agenda was approved.

Unless an emergency board meeting is held to add another item to the AGM agenda, Meggs said it’s now too late for him to have his referendum included in the AGM because board bylaws require the agenda be advertised two weeks before it occurs. However, the board could hold a special general meeting late October for the referendum.

“It’s just a slow process,” said Meggs. “And while we are worrying about that, it distracts from the negotiations.”

The union and employer continued mediation on Monday (Sept. 21) when the union’s economist went through the financial records of the UVSS to try to help them find where the money for the full raise could come from.

At an open UVSS meeting on Sept. 8, Meggs promised to meet the union’s demand if they could find the money for it without going into deficit.

But even if the latest offer by the employer was accepted, prices at several food outlets in the SUB will go up when the building is reopened.

Both parties indicated they expect negotiations to continue this week.

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  • na Sept. 27, 2008, 2:34 a.m.

    I think that if you look through the minutes of the UVSS board meetings it is pretty easy to find things that could be cut in order to pay employees. How much money does the UVSS spend making buttons every year? Paying fines for certain mistakes? Giving external donations to people and groups of their choice?

    I don't know about the UVSS executive, but one grocery bill for one employee is worth more to me than 1000 buttons.

  • na Sept. 27, 2008, 2:34 a.m.

    I think that if you look through the minutes of the UVSS board meetings it is pretty easy to find things that could be cut in order to pay employees. How much money does the UVSS spend making buttons every year? Paying fines for certain mistakes? Giving external donations to people and groups of their choice?

    I don't know about the UVSS executive, but one grocery bill for one employee is worth more to me than 1000 buttons.

  • Dylan Sept. 27, 2008, 12:41 p.m.

    Threatening the board with a silly petition into meeting your full demands (regardless of how deserved those demands may be) is such a childish and counterproductive thing to do. How dare you put the greater fiscal responsibility that your job entails over my desire for a bigger pay check! Guess I'll threaten your job! Hilariously enough, if successful, doing so would remove the employer... thus placing the union back at square one (and leaving it's workers out in the cold)! Be serious, whoever is elected has the responsibility to give no more than what the finances of the student's society allows... even were there a change in leadership, you wouldn't have a change in result. Trying to take advantage of the bunch of hippy classmates that are in the lame position of being your de-facto bosses... tch tch, and then threatening them when you don't get your way. Way to leave yourself out in the cold. And look... this petition isn't going to be used... it's only purpose (from the beginning) is to threaten, to achieve through coercion what couldn't be done through more reasoned means at the bargaining table. Classy.

    Really it's quite possible for students to just pay more on their student fees. I wouldn't mind. In fact, I'm all for it. Were I not on exchange, I'd put in the paperwork myself. Actually, I suggested it to several people before leaving... So why didn't someone petition to add a fee increase to the AGM? I hope students understand fully that by the function of how the society operates, the student body is the employer of the striking SUB workers. If you think they should be paid more, which I certainly do, than let us pay them more. It's our money... and spread out it's just not very much. If students won't pay more on their fees, they'll end up paying at the international grill/felicitas/bean there... in the SUB. I'd rather pay more fees and have sandwiches be the same prices when I get home.

  • Dylan Sept. 27, 2008, 12:41 p.m.

    Threatening the board with a silly petition into meeting your full demands (regardless of how deserved those demands may be) is such a childish and counterproductive thing to do. How dare you put the greater fiscal responsibility that your job entails over my desire for a bigger pay check! Guess I'll threaten your job! Hilariously enough, if successful, doing so would remove the employer... thus placing the union back at square one (and leaving it's workers out in the cold)! Be serious, whoever is elected has the responsibility to give no more than what the finances of the student's society allows... even were there a change in leadership, you wouldn't have a change in result. Trying to take advantage of the bunch of hippy classmates that are in the lame position of being your de-facto bosses... tch tch, and then threatening them when you don't get your way. Way to leave yourself out in the cold. And look... this petition isn't going to be used... it's only purpose (from the beginning) is to threaten, to achieve through coercion what couldn't be done through more reasoned means at the bargaining table. Classy.

    Really it's quite possible for students to just pay more on their student fees. I wouldn't mind. In fact, I'm all for it. Were I not on exchange, I'd put in the paperwork myself. Actually, I suggested it to several people before leaving... So why didn't someone petition to add a fee increase to the AGM? I hope students understand fully that by the function of how the society operates, the student body is the employer of the striking SUB workers. If you think they should be paid more, which I certainly do, than let us pay them more. It's our money... and spread out it's just not very much. If students won't pay more on their fees, they'll end up paying at the international grill/felicitas/bean there... in the SUB. I'd rather pay more fees and have sandwiches be the same prices when I get home.

  • Dylan Hardie Sept. 28, 2008, 8:13 p.m.

    Just a quick note:

    Jose is a supervisor at the Munchie Bar. He already makes $12.16/hour there, not $9.95.

    Also, the offer put forward by the union has been $3.00 over 2 years, not $1.50 over one year (that is just the first half of the offer).

    The only reason a higher offer has not been put forward by the board is that even though they have already doubled their offer, the union hasn't budged a cent on theirs.

    Furthermore, this whole petition thing is a joke. It lacks the support of a majority of students, and many of those who signed it did so under false pretenses. Jose was telling people that it was to support the strike not that it was to impeach the board.

    It will be a good day when all this is settled and these petty actions are left behind.

  • Dylan Hardie Sept. 28, 2008, 8:13 p.m.

    Just a quick note:

    Jose is a supervisor at the Munchie Bar. He already makes $12.16/hour there, not $9.95.

    Also, the offer put forward by the union has been $3.00 over 2 years, not $1.50 over one year (that is just the first half of the offer).

    The only reason a higher offer has not been put forward by the board is that even though they have already doubled their offer, the union hasn't budged a cent on theirs.

    Furthermore, this whole petition thing is a joke. It lacks the support of a majority of students, and many of those who signed it did so under false pretenses. Jose was telling people that it was to support the strike not that it was to impeach the board.

    It will be a good day when all this is settled and these petty actions are left behind.

  • na Sept. 30, 2008, 11:28 a.m.

    It doesn't HAVE to be through a fee increase, Dylan. By this point I would hope you have looked through at least some of the minutes. Look through the AGM minutes too. This could be solved by a reallocation pretty easily.

    Look into how much Marne Jensen, the General Manager gets and tell me that's fair while Jose is getting 12 bucks an hour. Keep in mind Jensen doesn't even have an undergraduate degree, and is holding a position meant for an accountant. Perhaps the society should re think this before being so hard on student employees... and in the future base more on actual credentials and less on ties to the CFS and the NDP.

  • na Sept. 30, 2008, 11:28 a.m.

    It doesn't HAVE to be through a fee increase, Dylan. By this point I would hope you have looked through at least some of the minutes. Look through the AGM minutes too. This could be solved by a reallocation pretty easily.

    Look into how much Marne Jensen, the General Manager gets and tell me that's fair while Jose is getting 12 bucks an hour. Keep in mind Jensen doesn't even have an undergraduate degree, and is holding a position meant for an accountant. Perhaps the society should re think this before being so hard on student employees... and in the future base more on actual credentials and less on ties to the CFS and the NDP.

  • na Sept. 30, 2008, 11:30 a.m.

    Maybe Meggs and the rest of the board should be impeached for not recognizing the possibilities available and not representing students interests.

  • na Sept. 30, 2008, 11:30 a.m.

    Maybe Meggs and the rest of the board should be impeached for not recognizing the possibilities available and not representing students interests.

  • Glen Oct. 2, 2008, 5:34 p.m.

    To be fair both sides have a point but I wonder how much longer the strike can last? and also will the majority of the students come back to the SUB if we've alllearned to get around it. Also given that the union is the one holding up negotions i'm more inclined to be on the board's side

  • Glen Oct. 2, 2008, 5:34 p.m.

    To be fair both sides have a point but I wonder how much longer the strike can last? and also will the majority of the students come back to the SUB if we've alllearned to get around it. Also given that the union is the one holding up negotions i'm more inclined to be on the board's side

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