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The Diggers

An inside story on autonomous student garden action

Apr 01, 2010 | Volume 62 Issue 28 | 74 Comments
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Sol Kauffman

I kicked my shovel into the ground alongside friends and students I didn’t know on Wednesday, March 24. Those in tights and flip-flops dug just as deeply as students in Carharts and boots. A relay of people transported buckets of soil from trucks to the lawn, where others stood ready with plant starts and seeds.

Even when materials ran out, students kept creating. While a motley marching band played pots, cymbals and trombones in the background, students dug with their hands, salvaged wood from construction dumpsters and bordered their spiral gardens with rocks from the water feature beside the library. When there were no more plants or seeds, students dug spiral designs into the lawn — space for future plantings.

Graduate political science student Nick Montgomery was dressed in a suit and top hat to play a mock administrative role. Despite his monotonous pleas for students to go back to class and stop doing evil to the lawn, the student body did not pause. Nor did it pause when the Saanich Police showed up and threatened to arrest anyone who remained digging.

At least a dozen students continued to construct the remaining garden bed.

I linked arms in a chain of students that formed to encircle the gardens and remaining diggers. Despite threat of arrest and bodily harm, students on either side of me grinned and moved their bodies to the beat of the marching band as they awaited police response. Police photographers were busy documenting the faces of those present, but no arrests were made.

The rest of the afternoon was police-free and relaxed. An elementary school class trickled in and I helped a few kids plant bean seeds in a spiral garden bed. They wanted their turn with the megaphone too, and mirrored the ethic of the university gardeners.

“Action,” they called loudly, and, “Time for work.”

In the end, there were 10 separate beds full of pea seeds, kale starts, strawberries and native plants.

A sign reading “Food Not Lawns: Student Autonomous Garden” gave a cursory explanation of what had motivated students to transform a portion of their campus. It was a collective action taken by autonomous students with different allegiances and motivations, yet the sense of community between participants was fierce. All were united in the active renewal of place and the strengthening of student autonomy.

“It was the strongest sense of cooperation and solidarity I’ve ever experienced on campus,” said art and geography major Hilary Todhunter.

Local food production: short story, long history -

In many ways, the growing dependency on imported, industrially-produced food provides a key to understanding the demands for local food production expressed by the action of Food Not Lawns Collective (FNLC).

In the early 20th century, 85 per cent of food consumed on Vancouver Island was produced locally. This total has declined steadily since then. Population growth plays a part here, but the driving factor has been the declining “un-profitability” of running a farm on the Island.

There are a variety of reasons for this downward spiral in profitability, such as the low cost of subsidized industrial food products imported to the Island.

“This crisis is an outcome of globalization and the industrialization of food systems, entrenched over the past 40 to 50 years,” stated a recent report by the Islands Good Food Initiative. “The production cost of local food is much higher than imports coming from countries that are unfairly subsidized, and/or where labor and environmental standards are questionable.”

Another hindrance to local food production has been the dramatic increase in land prices on Vancouver Island, which rose over 150 per cent in the past 10 years, and has led to increased rent and property taxes for existing farms, while making it difficult for young farmers to start operations.

Yet another reason for the decline in locally-produced food is that, in 2007, the provincial government introduced legislation forcing farmers to slaughter meat bound for human consumption in licensed abattoirs. This measure has made production in places such as Salt Spring Island and remote sections of Vancouver Island more costly, due to transport costs and the resulting decline in quality of meat that is slaughtered in a distant industrial setting. These factors have combined to create a situation in which less than 10 per cent of food consumed on the Island is grown here.

“Students have been trying to negotiate for years to get some kind of sustainable food production on campus, and have been frustrated with endless meetings and analyses and reports that never see any action from administration,” said garden participant Clementine O’Farrell.

Let’s talk CJVI lands again -

Over the past 15 years, UVic has seen multiple initiatives aimed to convince the administration of the imperative for institutional innovation surrounding food security and hands-on sustainability education.

Multiple proposals have focused on the Cedar Hill corner lot at UVic (also known as the CJVI Lands) as a crucial area for revitalization. The south-east-facing lot is valued for its size, its history of agricultural use and its potential as an urban agriculture learning site.

As early as 1997, the Camassia Student Collective was advocating for the creation of an alternative agriculture and sustainable living center on the lands, organized around the principles of permaculture — a design-philosophy based on the interdependency of humans and nature.

Camassia argued that, if the university is to provide students with a sustainable, empowering education, there is an acute need for experiential learning programs in areas such as sustainable food systems, energy efficiency, wastewater recycling and natural building.

In 2005, Michael M’Gonigle and Jason Found of the POLIS project (a project on Ecological Governance at UVic) published a report called “UnCommon Ground: Creating Complete Community at UVic.” That report once again vocalized the need for a theoretical and practical learning center for urban and alternative agriculture. It concluded that innovative use of the CJVI Lands would be a crucial way for the university to contribute to food security, social and environmental sustainability, and a strong sense of community on campus.

Then in 2006, Megan Thom followed up with her report “Planting the Seeds: Towards an Urban Agriculture Learning Center at UVic,” which provided multiple suggestions for how to mitigate the barriers to administrative approval such a learning center would see.

The action of FNLC was undertaken partly because administration has not acknowledged the gravity of these proposals.

“UVic envisions an organically-landscaped and managed campus that enhances biodiversity and offers healthy, local and diverse food choices,” reads UVic’s “Sustainable Action Plan: Campus Operations 2009-2014” manual. “UVic views its landscapes as a living laboratory — a place of academic study and community learning.”

“Administration has done nothing to back [UVic’s plan] up, and so we decided to back it up for them,” said garden participant Tyler Sparks. “We created that living laboratory, and that community learning.”

Breaking ground -

Administrative inaction on campus food security issues and on the use of the CJVI lands was a strong theme during Wednesday’s gardening session. Equally strong was the re-evaluation of student agency within the university’s decision-making system.

Before any ground was broken, Serena Kataoka took the microphone to put the day’s action into historical perspective. She told a story of land enclosure — when the Hudson’s Bay Company established its fort on the land that is now Victoria. They erected a fence to both enclose what they professed to own and to exclude the Indigenous peoples whose territory they had privatized. The surprise at the end of the story was this: it was the Indigenous themselves who were made to build the fence and close themselves out.

“As students, we often reinforce the fences that bind our ways of thinking and exclude meaningful participation in our own education,” said graduate student and garden participant Jenny McCartney. “In order to create change on campus and elsewhere, we’ve been taught that we must seek administrative authority and funnel our energies through a whole labyrinth of carefully-laid conduits of bureaucracy, which quickly act to defuse and marginalize radical alternatives — our real stakes, our energy and our joy.”

Ploughing a protected plant -

Mike-Jo Brownlee, education student and activist, explains that action was taken by FNLC because “no one wanted to beg anymore.”

Brownlee and former student Jenna Rudolph spent the night next to the garden. They were awoken between midnight and 1 a.m. by over a dozen people — Saanich police, Campus Security and grounds crew — who proceeded to level the garden with the use of heavy machinery.

Brownlee placed his body in the way of a front-end loading tractor that was about to dig up a bed containing camas lilies, a protected species and gift from a Lekwungen family on whose territory the university is situated.

Brownlee says the tractor pulled right up to his shins before Campus Security approached him to leave. He acknowledged neither Campus Security nor Saanich police, and was then handcuffed and arrested for “assault by trespass.”

“A coercive body of people called me an assaulter for standing on my own two feet where I wanted to stand, in front of a gift from Indigenous peoples, on unceded Indigenous land,” Brownlee said.

The university did not pursue charges.

Rudolph sat on a remaining garden bed and decided to allow police to escort her off the premise, rather than be arrested.

“I felt it was cowardly of them to remove it when no one was around,” she said. “It was painful to watch camas being ripped up, thrown away, and replaced with some useless, impermeable surface.”

Brownlee says the response by both students and administration to the FNLC demonstration exposed two themes.

“One, the pure power of direct, non-sanctioned actions against corporate and colonial institutions. And two, the emergence of a different kind of authority that undermines that of those institutions,” he said.

McCartney maintains that the actions of FNLC were not purely a stunt to garner administrative attention, but also a “radical reconfiguration of the way students think about legitimacy.”

“On Wednesday, students found legitimacy and authority within themselves — not through the university hierarchy,” she said. “The garden was not meant to impose anything on others, but to open everyone’s eyes to the possibility of reclaiming the places that we live and actively creating what we want to see.”

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  • erocifeller April 1, 2010, 11:47 a.m.

    so much petty hatred and ignorance; no strong argument from the opposers aside from the love of pointless and meaningless turf.

  • erocifeller April 1, 2010, 11:47 a.m.

    so much petty hatred and ignorance; no strong argument from the opposers aside from the love of pointless and meaningless turf.

  • Duncan April 1, 2010, 12:10 p.m.

    Long on zeal, short on ideas. All these vague notions of food security, indigenous activism and student involvement are poorly formulated and pocketed with lies. What was that crackpot with the fake UVic hat saying yesterday? Tons of cops around? The cops were up at Campus Security having coffee and waiting in case some hippie got a little too excited. Rubber bullets and tear gas? You wish -- if you actually experienced any oppression, it'd be the biggest boost to your anarchist ego possible. But you're being let alone, because no one sees you as a threat. And finally, the suggestion that if we don't think you're right, we aren't thinking. Way to win people over.

    Get off the campus.

  • Duncan April 1, 2010, 12:10 p.m.

    Long on zeal, short on ideas. All these vague notions of food security, indigenous activism and student involvement are poorly formulated and pocketed with lies. What was that crackpot with the fake UVic hat saying yesterday? Tons of cops around? The cops were up at Campus Security having coffee and waiting in case some hippie got a little too excited. Rubber bullets and tear gas? You wish -- if you actually experienced any oppression, it'd be the biggest boost to your anarchist ego possible. But you're being let alone, because no one sees you as a threat. And finally, the suggestion that if we don't think you're right, we aren't thinking. Way to win people over.

    Get off the campus.

  • Ben April 1, 2010, 12:45 p.m.

    Well I am just wondering for all those who are so critical of FNLC actions, what do you think would have been a more effective way to voice your concerns? Maybe actions don't speak louder than words but perhaps they do? It doesn't seem like just mere protesting works in this city, maybe we should wonder what some of the historically great activists would have done in this situation? And for those who seem to think that tuition will go up just because of this.......I doubt it is that simple. And will leaving this garden really cost that much?? How about all those opposed form a countercollective to do something rather than just running your mouths on some forum? If most students want the garden gone it should be eradicated immediately!!

  • Ben April 1, 2010, 12:45 p.m.

    Well I am just wondering for all those who are so critical of FNLC actions, what do you think would have been a more effective way to voice your concerns? Maybe actions don't speak louder than words but perhaps they do? It doesn't seem like just mere protesting works in this city, maybe we should wonder what some of the historically great activists would have done in this situation? And for those who seem to think that tuition will go up just because of this.......I doubt it is that simple. And will leaving this garden really cost that much?? How about all those opposed form a countercollective to do something rather than just running your mouths on some forum? If most students want the garden gone it should be eradicated immediately!!

  • Shannon April 1, 2010, 12:46 p.m.

    This is an absolutely fabulous article Alex.

    Anyone who has ever had to depend on kraft dinner from a food bank, or the old vegetables they find in dumpsters (and there are hundreds of these students at UVic), and anyone who has contemplated the social and environmental injustices of depending on imported food, should be acutely aware that we can't eat lawns, and that the real crime here is that huge tracts of some of the best arable land in the area are being used for nothing but inedible grass.

  • Shannon April 1, 2010, 12:46 p.m.

    This is an absolutely fabulous article Alex.

    Anyone who has ever had to depend on kraft dinner from a food bank, or the old vegetables they find in dumpsters (and there are hundreds of these students at UVic), and anyone who has contemplated the social and environmental injustices of depending on imported food, should be acutely aware that we can't eat lawns, and that the real crime here is that huge tracts of some of the best arable land in the area are being used for nothing but inedible grass.

  • Amy April 1, 2010, 2:06 p.m.

    I think protests should be allowed but we should learn to work together and not against each other. The university should have dealt with the small protest in a agreeable fashion instead of bulldozing the small garden. They should have informed students of the reasons of why it was inappropriate. Protests are always needed, but they can also get out of hand. Although I do not agree with the way the situation is handled on either side, situations like this are great initiators of change.

  • Amy April 1, 2010, 2:06 p.m.

    I think protests should be allowed but we should learn to work together and not against each other. The university should have dealt with the small protest in a agreeable fashion instead of bulldozing the small garden. They should have informed students of the reasons of why it was inappropriate. Protests are always needed, but they can also get out of hand. Although I do not agree with the way the situation is handled on either side, situations like this are great initiators of change.

  • Jim April 1, 2010, 3:44 p.m.

    Comments about stupid hippies are counterproductive to any kind of debate we might try and have here. It's a blatant ad hominem. The way someone dresses or the music they like has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

    I agree with the concern of Food Not Lawns, and would second the notion that UVic should provide more on campus areas for student gardening. There is a high demand for it, as evidenced by the waiting list for a plot at the current community garden.

    I also admire the courage it takes to protest in such an open, bold fashion. If this were nearly any other school in Canada, students would have likely faced charges of some kind, so suffice to say what the FNLC kids did was gutsy.

    That said, I have a few issues running around my head that I'd like to offer to the discussion.

    The primary reason a garden in front of the library would not work, even if it were approved by the university, is traffic. That area sees more students walking through it on a daily basis than nearly any other on campus. A vegetable garden there would be in the way, and you'd better believe it would get vandalized/disturbed fairly quickly. This isn't nice to think about, but we have to face up to the fact that we are on a university campus, and plenty of the people here are fairly immature.

    If the garden was meant solely as a protest, and not to be something which actually stood the test of time, then it was a real waste of vegetable starters/other gardening materials. With all the talk about food security, the last thing we want to do is waste food.

    The second issue surrounding this is the unilateral nature of FNLC's actions. Given the estimates I've heard, about 50-70 people actively participated in the protest (digging etc). That's less than one percent of the student body. We can talk about the campus community as much as anyone likes, but I don't think that one percent of the student body has the right to claim a piece of land that is smack dab in the center of the busiest part of campus.

    The concept of claiming land brings up the third, and perhaps most difficult point. There were many protestors who reminded us that the land they used was once stolen from the indigenous peoples of Vancouver Island. This is an apt point in general, but not justification for the specific actions of FNLC yesterday.

    The old phrase: Two wrongs don't make a right comes to mind here. It was wrong to invade, steal from, and colonize indigenous land. That doesn't make it right for a minority group on campus to claim their own piece of this land. That land might not belong to the University, but in that case, it doesn't belong to FNLC either.

    In closing, I don't want people to think that I'm against the cause of FNLC. I'd love to see the entire quad turned into a vegetable garden. The only thing I'm annoyed by is the general antagonistic attitude. Much of the rhetoric being used is inflammatory, and the protest itself was not thought out to gain the support of the student body at large. It is also wasteful, as the persons engaging in the protest must know their garden is just going to be torn down again. That garden was actually quite well done, and there had to have been a more suitable place for it somewhere.

  • Jim April 1, 2010, 3:44 p.m.

    Comments about stupid hippies are counterproductive to any kind of debate we might try and have here. It's a blatant ad hominem. The way someone dresses or the music they like has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

    I agree with the concern of Food Not Lawns, and would second the notion that UVic should provide more on campus areas for student gardening. There is a high demand for it, as evidenced by the waiting list for a plot at the current community garden.

    I also admire the courage it takes to protest in such an open, bold fashion. If this were nearly any other school in Canada, students would have likely faced charges of some kind, so suffice to say what the FNLC kids did was gutsy.

    That said, I have a few issues running around my head that I'd like to offer to the discussion.

    The primary reason a garden in front of the library would not work, even if it were approved by the university, is traffic. That area sees more students walking through it on a daily basis than nearly any other on campus. A vegetable garden there would be in the way, and you'd better believe it would get vandalized/disturbed fairly quickly. This isn't nice to think about, but we have to face up to the fact that we are on a university campus, and plenty of the people here are fairly immature.

    If the garden was meant solely as a protest, and not to be something which actually stood the test of time, then it was a real waste of vegetable starters/other gardening materials. With all the talk about food security, the last thing we want to do is waste food.

    The second issue surrounding this is the unilateral nature of FNLC's actions. Given the estimates I've heard, about 50-70 people actively participated in the protest (digging etc). That's less than one percent of the student body. We can talk about the campus community as much as anyone likes, but I don't think that one percent of the student body has the right to claim a piece of land that is smack dab in the center of the busiest part of campus.

    The concept of claiming land brings up the third, and perhaps most difficult point. There were many protestors who reminded us that the land they used was once stolen from the indigenous peoples of Vancouver Island. This is an apt point in general, but not justification for the specific actions of FNLC yesterday.

    The old phrase: Two wrongs don't make a right comes to mind here. It was wrong to invade, steal from, and colonize indigenous land. That doesn't make it right for a minority group on campus to claim their own piece of this land. That land might not belong to the University, but in that case, it doesn't belong to FNLC either.

    In closing, I don't want people to think that I'm against the cause of FNLC. I'd love to see the entire quad turned into a vegetable garden. The only thing I'm annoyed by is the general antagonistic attitude. Much of the rhetoric being used is inflammatory, and the protest itself was not thought out to gain the support of the student body at large. It is also wasteful, as the persons engaging in the protest must know their garden is just going to be torn down again. That garden was actually quite well done, and there had to have been a more suitable place for it somewhere.

  • Y April 1, 2010, 6:32 p.m.

    I agree with Jim. I support the expansion of student gardening, but the protest was a bit of a PR fail. First, many of us students didn't really know why the FNCL were doing it. I only really found out after reading this article. The group should really have made its message more succinct and should have advertised it better. There are many misconceptions floating around because the group failed to communicate effectively. Maybe having a whole bunch of info booths/displays in the area, with people explaining the history and importance of the cause, rather than a few small signs, would've increased communication and student support.

    Also, the tone of the protest was sometimes annoying and antagonizing. The guy with the hat and the loudspeaker seemed to be mocking/taunting the people watching, which included sympathetic bystanders. He just seemed to create negative vibes. Instead, they should've had a friendly person speaking, asking everyone to join together and help in a positive, non-condescending, non-preachy tone. The anarchy flag and Communist-like language made it a bit laughable to some too.

    And finally, many students complained of the noise. The FNLC must remember that in addition to the students studying in the library, there are many classrooms with lectures in that area too.

    The FNLC need to learn how to convince people to join and to become more environmentally aware. Right now I think they are just alienating people. But I must say it was brave of them and the garden looked nice. I hope uvic does get its educational, community farm.

  • Y April 1, 2010, 6:32 p.m.

    I agree with Jim. I support the expansion of student gardening, but the protest was a bit of a PR fail. First, many of us students didn't really know why the FNCL were doing it. I only really found out after reading this article. The group should really have made its message more succinct and should have advertised it better. There are many misconceptions floating around because the group failed to communicate effectively. Maybe having a whole bunch of info booths/displays in the area, with people explaining the history and importance of the cause, rather than a few small signs, would've increased communication and student support.

    Also, the tone of the protest was sometimes annoying and antagonizing. The guy with the hat and the loudspeaker seemed to be mocking/taunting the people watching, which included sympathetic bystanders. He just seemed to create negative vibes. Instead, they should've had a friendly person speaking, asking everyone to join together and help in a positive, non-condescending, non-preachy tone. The anarchy flag and Communist-like language made it a bit laughable to some too.

    And finally, many students complained of the noise. The FNLC must remember that in addition to the students studying in the library, there are many classrooms with lectures in that area too.

    The FNLC need to learn how to convince people to join and to become more environmentally aware. Right now I think they are just alienating people. But I must say it was brave of them and the garden looked nice. I hope uvic does get its educational, community farm.

  • irritated April 1, 2010, 6:39 p.m.

    While I am not against your message, your passion or even–at times–your tactics, I am dismayed at the issues that you are creating for the students of UVic.

    Environmental issues are clearly very important to you, and, at this point in the school year, my grades are important to me. I was studying in the Reserve section of the library for an assignment worth a significant portion of my grade. I was completely and utterly distracted from my work by your drums, chants, cheers, etc. While I respect your cause and wish you well in initiating more space for community gardens on UVic property, please understand that you are absolutely denying the students who are choosing to focus on academics a place to do so. Normally, I would have just studied at home, but due to lack of time and the nature of the Reserve section, I did not have that option. Please consider the interests of all of the students of UVic when you choose to disrupt studying in this crucial time before exams. Thank you.

  • irritated April 1, 2010, 6:39 p.m.

    While I am not against your message, your passion or even–at times–your tactics, I am dismayed at the issues that you are creating for the students of UVic.

    Environmental issues are clearly very important to you, and, at this point in the school year, my grades are important to me. I was studying in the Reserve section of the library for an assignment worth a significant portion of my grade. I was completely and utterly distracted from my work by your drums, chants, cheers, etc. While I respect your cause and wish you well in initiating more space for community gardens on UVic property, please understand that you are absolutely denying the students who are choosing to focus on academics a place to do so. Normally, I would have just studied at home, but due to lack of time and the nature of the Reserve section, I did not have that option. Please consider the interests of all of the students of UVic when you choose to disrupt studying in this crucial time before exams. Thank you.

  • sandi April 2, 2010, 12:54 a.m.

    You should all watch the documentary FOOD Inc. it is scary how large corpporations are controlling how our food is grown and produced. Way to go Flabbergasted... it's not 1960, people who want to eat healthy food aren't hippies... we just don't want to suffer with disease or watch our kids suffer. some people should get educated and take a stand for their rights instead of following the status quo and letting others decide their fate... when it comes to what they are putting in their bodies...

  • sandi April 2, 2010, 12:54 a.m.

    You should all watch the documentary FOOD Inc. it is scary how large corpporations are controlling how our food is grown and produced. Way to go Flabbergasted... it's not 1960, people who want to eat healthy food aren't hippies... we just don't want to suffer with disease or watch our kids suffer. some people should get educated and take a stand for their rights instead of following the status quo and letting others decide their fate... when it comes to what they are putting in their bodies...

  • irritated April 2, 2010, 1:28 a.m.

    Thank you for your reply, Really. We have more in common than you think. Believe me, I find it exasperating and monotonous to be sitting in the library working on irrelevant assignments when I could be somewhere else, trying to make a difference. Sadly, this is what the university places weight on, and passing my classes despite my personal views on the validity and usefulness of the assignments is essential to graduation. Sometimes you have to work the system from the inside to be able to be effective. I appreciate that not all change is accomplished this way, but that is the way I've chosen to do it. I wish every success to people who choose this path or have chosen a more visible activist approach.

    I hope that, if anything, the activism of creating the gardens will heighten the visibility about the issues of urban agriculture and the long waits for community garden plots. Hopefully, although UVic is relatively 'green' already, the university is pressured into adopting even more sustainable practices on campus, as the issue is clearly important to students and faculty alike.

  • irritated April 2, 2010, 1:28 a.m.

    Thank you for your reply, Really. We have more in common than you think. Believe me, I find it exasperating and monotonous to be sitting in the library working on irrelevant assignments when I could be somewhere else, trying to make a difference. Sadly, this is what the university places weight on, and passing my classes despite my personal views on the validity and usefulness of the assignments is essential to graduation. Sometimes you have to work the system from the inside to be able to be effective. I appreciate that not all change is accomplished this way, but that is the way I've chosen to do it. I wish every success to people who choose this path or have chosen a more visible activist approach.

    I hope that, if anything, the activism of creating the gardens will heighten the visibility about the issues of urban agriculture and the long waits for community garden plots. Hopefully, although UVic is relatively 'green' already, the university is pressured into adopting even more sustainable practices on campus, as the issue is clearly important to students and faculty alike.

  • adam April 2, 2010, 1:48 a.m.

    irritated,

    i am yet another student that supports the resistance is fertile decentralized movement. i also don't self-identify as an anarchist (a rather loaded and politically charged term), but i do share many of the same values as people who do. that being said i probably share a lot of values with you as well given your areas of study.

    it's beyond me how you can be filled with so much anger over this action. a bit of noise disturbance of the peace and all measures of the greater good go right out the window.

    university is about far more than just studying through reading, writing and classroom work. As you may know from your poli sci studies the first university is said to be formed in Ancient Greece and put great emphasis on the act of public deliberation. this is essentially what we are doing now and what students have been doing around the gardens.

    my main point is that beyond just planting food and turning useless lawn space into productive community space that addresses a whole host of healthy issues, the garden has sparked the growth of new debates and discussion on campus. It has triggered national media and has brought the bridged the connection between food security, global warming and gardening for a whole host of Canadians.

    all these privileged complaints about noise and the criminal offense of digging up a relatively small section of lawn amount to cynical chatter when weighed against the positive contributions that have grown from this celebration of collective autonomy.

  • adam April 2, 2010, 1:48 a.m.

    irritated,

    i am yet another student that supports the resistance is fertile decentralized movement. i also don't self-identify as an anarchist (a rather loaded and politically charged term), but i do share many of the same values as people who do. that being said i probably share a lot of values with you as well given your areas of study.

    it's beyond me how you can be filled with so much anger over this action. a bit of noise disturbance of the peace and all measures of the greater good go right out the window.

    university is about far more than just studying through reading, writing and classroom work. As you may know from your poli sci studies the first university is said to be formed in Ancient Greece and put great emphasis on the act of public deliberation. this is essentially what we are doing now and what students have been doing around the gardens.

    my main point is that beyond just planting food and turning useless lawn space into productive community space that addresses a whole host of healthy issues, the garden has sparked the growth of new debates and discussion on campus. It has triggered national media and has brought the bridged the connection between food security, global warming and gardening for a whole host of Canadians.

    all these privileged complaints about noise and the criminal offense of digging up a relatively small section of lawn amount to cynical chatter when weighed against the positive contributions that have grown from this celebration of collective autonomy.

  • adam April 2, 2010, 1:54 a.m.

    i would also suggest that the university is far more of a greenwash than actually being green. they certainly talk the talk, but when it comes to the rubber hittign the road these guys are action neutral, not carbon neutral.

    in policy commitments uvic is supposed to be carbon neutral this year. yet when it comes to embracing one of the largest steps toward realizing this goal (growing local food) the admin makes an enemy out of what should be its strongest ally - the students keen to move forward.

  • adam April 2, 2010, 1:54 a.m.

    i would also suggest that the university is far more of a greenwash than actually being green. they certainly talk the talk, but when it comes to the rubber hittign the road these guys are action neutral, not carbon neutral.

    in policy commitments uvic is supposed to be carbon neutral this year. yet when it comes to embracing one of the largest steps toward realizing this goal (growing local food) the admin makes an enemy out of what should be its strongest ally - the students keen to move forward.

  • Adam April 2, 2010, 3:33 p.m.

    Grass is not a waste of space. I'm sure if UVic proposed tomorrow that they wanted to put a new building where the quad was you would all protest in favor of maintaining the current quad.

    However your demonstration is a waste of resources. Thank you for using of the time and other resources of the local police who most likely have more important issues to deal with.

    This course of action in simply wrong. Your views and frustration with lack of action do not permit you to take action in your own collective hands. I live off campus and have a very hard time finding parking on campus because UVic has not increased it's parking along with overall student growth. Would it be okay if a me and a group of my friends came in one day and paved the quad? No.

    Truly believe you can all work together towards this common goal? Everyone in the non-hierarchical togetherness united by a common goal should get together and buy a farm. You can use that land to till and irrigate to your hearts content. Think how smug you can all look years down the road when we come crawling to your farm saying how wrong we were.

    Stop disrupting classes.

  • Adam April 2, 2010, 3:33 p.m.

    Grass is not a waste of space. I'm sure if UVic proposed tomorrow that they wanted to put a new building where the quad was you would all protest in favor of maintaining the current quad.

    However your demonstration is a waste of resources. Thank you for using of the time and other resources of the local police who most likely have more important issues to deal with.

    This course of action in simply wrong. Your views and frustration with lack of action do not permit you to take action in your own collective hands. I live off campus and have a very hard time finding parking on campus because UVic has not increased it's parking along with overall student growth. Would it be okay if a me and a group of my friends came in one day and paved the quad? No.

    Truly believe you can all work together towards this common goal? Everyone in the non-hierarchical togetherness united by a common goal should get together and buy a farm. You can use that land to till and irrigate to your hearts content. Think how smug you can all look years down the road when we come crawling to your farm saying how wrong we were.

    Stop disrupting classes.

  • Adam April 2, 2010, 3:35 p.m.

    Please don't confuse the above Adam (me) with adam that has been posting with a lowercase name.

  • Adam April 2, 2010, 3:35 p.m.

    Please don't confuse the above Adam (me) with adam that has been posting with a lowercase name.

  • Why So Polarized? April 2, 2010, 4:17 p.m.

    Those opposed to the garden (like the commenter 'shutup') do not speak for the whole student body, nor do those who dug it up.

    It is far more likely that people have a wide variety of views on the matter, and no one student, professor, or community member here speaks for us all.

    Some students here treat University as a pathway to a career, others see it as something more than that. Let's not discount either viewpoint, for admittedly, the loud music was disruptive. And that may be an independent issue of the protest. They have been playing in the middle of campus weeks before the garden dig.

    We all share this space and take part in this loose-knit community of varying ends and goals. Some might support the protestors ends while disputing their means, others might support both. Others support neither.

    Those who are opposed to the garden and want to go destory it —as suggested above—are just as bad (if not worse) than those who constructed it. It is a rather hypocritical position to hold.

    Rather, if there is to be progress made on this issue then we ought to look forward. Some sort of forum on the issue could be productive. Interested students, faculty members, administration, and community members could take part in a mediated discussion somewhere on campus.

    If no one is talking to one another, then we will not get very far in settling this issue. The Martlet does host a 'debate series' and if they were to use their resources to host a sort of forum than we might at the very least open up the channels of communication.

  • Why So Polarized? April 2, 2010, 4:17 p.m.

    Those opposed to the garden (like the commenter 'shutup') do not speak for the whole student body, nor do those who dug it up.

    It is far more likely that people have a wide variety of views on the matter, and no one student, professor, or community member here speaks for us all.

    Some students here treat University as a pathway to a career, others see it as something more than that. Let's not discount either viewpoint, for admittedly, the loud music was disruptive. And that may be an independent issue of the protest. They have been playing in the middle of campus weeks before the garden dig.

    We all share this space and take part in this loose-knit community of varying ends and goals. Some might support the protestors ends while disputing their means, others might support both. Others support neither.

    Those who are opposed to the garden and want to go destory it —as suggested above—are just as bad (if not worse) than those who constructed it. It is a rather hypocritical position to hold.

    Rather, if there is to be progress made on this issue then we ought to look forward. Some sort of forum on the issue could be productive. Interested students, faculty members, administration, and community members could take part in a mediated discussion somewhere on campus.

    If no one is talking to one another, then we will not get very far in settling this issue. The Martlet does host a 'debate series' and if they were to use their resources to host a sort of forum than we might at the very least open up the channels of communication.

  • Felix April 2, 2010, 5:03 p.m.

    There's plenty of debate happening on the two facebook groups:

    Yay garden is called Resistance is Fertile

    Nay garden (rather, nay illicit protest methods) is called Yes to Gardens, NO to Vandalism at UVic!

    ~Felix.

  • Felix April 2, 2010, 5:03 p.m.

    There's plenty of debate happening on the two facebook groups:

    Yay garden is called Resistance is Fertile

    Nay garden (rather, nay illicit protest methods) is called Yes to Gardens, NO to Vandalism at UVic!

    ~Felix.

  • Kevin April 2, 2010, 5:13 p.m.

    @Felix:

    That other group is not nay garden at all, though you did note that ;)

    We actually really support the idea of gardens and whatnot. The issue we have is their method, and the noise.

  • Kevin April 2, 2010, 5:13 p.m.

    @Felix:

    That other group is not nay garden at all, though you did note that ;)

    We actually really support the idea of gardens and whatnot. The issue we have is their method, and the noise.

  • community member April 2, 2010, 10:03 p.m.

    haha panzy students whining about noise, and moronic academics making arguments for the sake of jacking themselves off. who cares what other people do when it doesn't effect you at all? or do you miss your grass? your coddling institution has taught you to argue with anything, even when it means nothing to you. find a cause.

  • community member April 2, 2010, 10:03 p.m.

    haha panzy students whining about noise, and moronic academics making arguments for the sake of jacking themselves off. who cares what other people do when it doesn't effect you at all? or do you miss your grass? your coddling institution has taught you to argue with anything, even when it means nothing to you. find a cause.

  • Studying Student April 3, 2010, 2:31 a.m.

    Who said it doesn't affect us at all? These gardeners banged drums and cymbals right in front of the Library: A place where quiet is expected. Incredibly inconsiderate. To compound this, they did this just over a week before exams start.

  • Studying Student April 3, 2010, 2:31 a.m.

    Who said it doesn't affect us at all? These gardeners banged drums and cymbals right in front of the Library: A place where quiet is expected. Incredibly inconsiderate. To compound this, they did this just over a week before exams start.

  • Kevin April 3, 2010, 3:56 a.m.

    @community member:

    Aside from your pathetic and attacking langauge, you're completely wrong. It does affect a lot of people, especially those who had classes/midterms in that block of classrooms in Clearihue facing the fountain. I've had a class there every year except this term somehow, and noise from the quad carries in there extremely easily, without drums.

    Exams are starting very soon and this is the time of year when most of us have papers, assignments, labs, projects, etc. Maybe the gardeners didn't have a lot of work to do, but the rest of us did. It was extremely disrespectful and rude to make that much noise in the middle of a university campus on a school day at this time of year.

    As for the rest of your comments, like moron academics, those aren't even worthy of reply.

  • Kevin April 3, 2010, 3:56 a.m.

    @community member:

    Aside from your pathetic and attacking langauge, you're completely wrong. It does affect a lot of people, especially those who had classes/midterms in that block of classrooms in Clearihue facing the fountain. I've had a class there every year except this term somehow, and noise from the quad carries in there extremely easily, without drums.

    Exams are starting very soon and this is the time of year when most of us have papers, assignments, labs, projects, etc. Maybe the gardeners didn't have a lot of work to do, but the rest of us did. It was extremely disrespectful and rude to make that much noise in the middle of a university campus on a school day at this time of year.

    As for the rest of your comments, like moron academics, those aren't even worthy of reply.

  • ven April 3, 2010, 4:19 a.m.

    I'm upset that the Martlet moderators deleted my comments. Wow, censorship at a student newspaper.. who would have though?!

  • ven April 3, 2010, 4:19 a.m.

    I'm upset that the Martlet moderators deleted my comments. Wow, censorship at a student newspaper.. who would have though?!

  • Silly Martlet April 3, 2010, 6:18 p.m.

    They've also turned off the comments on a few articles.

  • Silly Martlet April 3, 2010, 6:18 p.m.

    They've also turned off the comments on a few articles.

  • community member April 3, 2010, 6:56 p.m.

    thats the best you've got? one or two hours when you couldn't study? THATS a reason for you to oppose that action? hahaha grievous concern. you're right, we should hang them.

  • community member April 3, 2010, 6:56 p.m.

    thats the best you've got? one or two hours when you couldn't study? THATS a reason for you to oppose that action? hahaha grievous concern. you're right, we should hang them.

  • Kevin April 3, 2010, 8:44 p.m.

    @community member

    First of all, there were more than 1 or 2 hours of noise.

    Second of all, classes and midterms are only 1-2 hours long, maximum. Most of mine are only 50 minutes long. So, your point is moot.

    Also, it would be greatly appreciated if you could post in a more respectful manner, as I am doing to you.

  • Kevin April 3, 2010, 8:44 p.m.

    @community member

    First of all, there were more than 1 or 2 hours of noise.

    Second of all, classes and midterms are only 1-2 hours long, maximum. Most of mine are only 50 minutes long. So, your point is moot.

    Also, it would be greatly appreciated if you could post in a more respectful manner, as I am doing to you.

  • Brittany Wiens April 3, 2010, 9:54 p.m.

    UVic is such a beautiful green campus. I used the lawn in front of the library to lounge on and study, throw a Frisbee and meet with friends when I was a UVic student. Now as an Alumni I still visit the campus to have a coffee and take a walk with the bunnies. The lawn is one of the last open spaces at UVic to do these things and when I heard about the actions of a handful of protesters digging up this space I was thoroughly disgusted. Who are you to rip up the property I and 25,000 other students paid for with our tuition fees? The theory of guerrilla gardening is to reclaim unused space and plant community food plots. How can you consider the last lawn on campus unused and why could this protest not have taken place on a dirt pad behind a building? Your message was lost when you chose to vandalize our (my and every other past or present UVic student's) property.

  • Brittany Wiens April 3, 2010, 9:54 p.m.

    UVic is such a beautiful green campus. I used the lawn in front of the library to lounge on and study, throw a Frisbee and meet with friends when I was a UVic student. Now as an Alumni I still visit the campus to have a coffee and take a walk with the bunnies. The lawn is one of the last open spaces at UVic to do these things and when I heard about the actions of a handful of protesters digging up this space I was thoroughly disgusted. Who are you to rip up the property I and 25,000 other students paid for with our tuition fees? The theory of guerrilla gardening is to reclaim unused space and plant community food plots. How can you consider the last lawn on campus unused and why could this protest not have taken place on a dirt pad behind a building? Your message was lost when you chose to vandalize our (my and every other past or present UVic student's) property.

  • Ivan M. April 4, 2010, 3:48 a.m.

    Hi Brittany, the garden was planted in that small lawn square just outside the library that was never very suitable for frisbee-throwing because it is bordered by bike racks and there was also that weird stone totem pole thing (??) that's part of UVic's collection of indigenous-lookng art which was in the middle of that little square. So, not very much room for running around in there.

    I think you may be concerned that the giant field in the middle of the campus between the MacLaurin buildings and library was what was dug up, which is not the case. That's a very widely used space and I agree that it would have been awful to tear it up.

    Nope, the plot in question is a small corner patch. I am pretty convinced that people would not feel at all violated about having that particular area gardened upon if there had been one of those big official-looking UVic is Sustainable signs at the site, meaning that the administration had had a few meetings and had signed off on some paperwork to allow to garden to be planted. The lack of bureaucratic sanction seems to be what has upset the most people, not the particular spot.

  • Ivan M. April 4, 2010, 3:48 a.m.

    Hi Brittany, the garden was planted in that small lawn square just outside the library that was never very suitable for frisbee-throwing because it is bordered by bike racks and there was also that weird stone totem pole thing (??) that's part of UVic's collection of indigenous-lookng art which was in the middle of that little square. So, not very much room for running around in there.

    I think you may be concerned that the giant field in the middle of the campus between the MacLaurin buildings and library was what was dug up, which is not the case. That's a very widely used space and I agree that it would have been awful to tear it up.

    Nope, the plot in question is a small corner patch. I am pretty convinced that people would not feel at all violated about having that particular area gardened upon if there had been one of those big official-looking UVic is Sustainable signs at the site, meaning that the administration had had a few meetings and had signed off on some paperwork to allow to garden to be planted. The lack of bureaucratic sanction seems to be what has upset the most people, not the particular spot.

  • @ Ivan April 4, 2010, 6 p.m.

    UVic would not approve that location for a garden so your scenario is theoretical at best. People care because they put it in a high profile location that is poorly suited for growing anything. They also made a heck of a lot of unnecessary noise while doing it.

  • @ Ivan April 4, 2010, 6 p.m.

    UVic would not approve that location for a garden so your scenario is theoretical at best. People care because they put it in a high profile location that is poorly suited for growing anything. They also made a heck of a lot of unnecessary noise while doing it.

  • Bahram Farzady April 5, 2010, 1:55 a.m.

    UVic would not approve that location for a garden so your scenario is theoretical at best.

    No shit, that's why it's a protest. This wasn't done to avoid some bureaucratic red-tape Ivan and responder to Ivan - unless I've missed something. It is civil disobedience. Lawful does not mean right and unlawful does not mean wrong.

    food>lawns

    If you accept that, this was the right thing to do.

    Brittany, no one cares that you lost a spot to lounge around and do nothing. If you want to study - despite not going to Uvic anymore - that's what the library is for.

    If you want to play Frisbee, go to the park. food>Frisbee as well. food>nothing too (obviously).

  • Bahram Farzady April 5, 2010, 1:55 a.m.

    UVic would not approve that location for a garden so your scenario is theoretical at best.

    No shit, that's why it's a protest. This wasn't done to avoid some bureaucratic red-tape Ivan and responder to Ivan - unless I've missed something. It is civil disobedience. Lawful does not mean right and unlawful does not mean wrong.

    food>lawns

    If you accept that, this was the right thing to do.

    Brittany, no one cares that you lost a spot to lounge around and do nothing. If you want to study - despite not going to Uvic anymore - that's what the library is for.

    If you want to play Frisbee, go to the park. food>Frisbee as well. food>nothing too (obviously).

  • Ivan M. April 5, 2010, 2:19 a.m.

    I don't believe that most people know or care about the soil conditions of that particular spot. True, it may actually be crap for growing things, but I still maintain that people are most upset because of the clear violation of property rules, which is something our culture holds sacred and foundational -- pull that notion out from someone (such as most of the someones attending UVic) who's probably never thought about whether we could possibly do something different with the land around us than divide it up and sell it/buy it, and you've thrown their whole worldview into question, which makes people fearful and hostile. Because a bunch of people deciding to create a food garden clearly leads to chaos which clearly leads to people stealing each others' iPods which clearly leads to people killing each other.

    I am surprised the reaction has been so hostile, hateful and spiteful towards what was meant to be a peaceful, innocuous, collaborative act, if a bit loud and misguided.

    Also, no matter what you may think, ya gotta admit that Youth Protecting Yams was a genius sign.

  • Ivan M. April 5, 2010, 2:19 a.m.

    I don't believe that most people know or care about the soil conditions of that particular spot. True, it may actually be crap for growing things, but I still maintain that people are most upset because of the clear violation of property rules, which is something our culture holds sacred and foundational -- pull that notion out from someone (such as most of the someones attending UVic) who's probably never thought about whether we could possibly do something different with the land around us than divide it up and sell it/buy it, and you've thrown their whole worldview into question, which makes people fearful and hostile. Because a bunch of people deciding to create a food garden clearly leads to chaos which clearly leads to people stealing each others' iPods which clearly leads to people killing each other.

    I am surprised the reaction has been so hostile, hateful and spiteful towards what was meant to be a peaceful, innocuous, collaborative act, if a bit loud and misguided.

    Also, no matter what you may think, ya gotta admit that Youth Protecting Yams was a genius sign.

  • Ivan M. April 5, 2010, 2:35 a.m.

    Bahram: No shit, that's why it's a protest. This wasn't done to avoid some bureaucratic red-tape Ivan and responder to Ivan - unless I've missed something. It is civil disobedience. Lawful does not mean right and unlawful does not mean wrong.

    Indeed, the '60s would be proud :) It's actually a rather beautiful, brilliant, creative way to start a revolution -- through such a non-violent and practical task as simply growing food to eat. I do hope that spontaneous acts of veggie terrorism take off at university campuses across the nation and beyond (with thought and discussion of soil conditions, drainage, sun, protection from other animals, and whether or not people actually use particular lawn patches, even for lying down). I actually had a rather respectable looking older couple say to me as they walked past the garden the other day that they hope the idea catches on. Lots of other community members, including an old English lady who looked like she was about to go off to church to volunteer, walking by saying that they heard about it, that it looks good, that they're proud. It's become a tourist attraction, this garden... and our parents' generation (and older) approves. So why is it that the young people view it as vandalism? Why are we so attached to small grass patches remaining grass patches?

  • Ivan M. April 5, 2010, 2:35 a.m.

    Bahram: No shit, that's why it's a protest. This wasn't done to avoid some bureaucratic red-tape Ivan and responder to Ivan - unless I've missed something. It is civil disobedience. Lawful does not mean right and unlawful does not mean wrong.

    Indeed, the '60s would be proud :) It's actually a rather beautiful, brilliant, creative way to start a revolution -- through such a non-violent and practical task as simply growing food to eat. I do hope that spontaneous acts of veggie terrorism take off at university campuses across the nation and beyond (with thought and discussion of soil conditions, drainage, sun, protection from other animals, and whether or not people actually use particular lawn patches, even for lying down). I actually had a rather respectable looking older couple say to me as they walked past the garden the other day that they hope the idea catches on. Lots of other community members, including an old English lady who looked like she was about to go off to church to volunteer, walking by saying that they heard about it, that it looks good, that they're proud. It's become a tourist attraction, this garden... and our parents' generation (and older) approves. So why is it that the young people view it as vandalism? Why are we so attached to small grass patches remaining grass patches?

  • Duncan April 5, 2010, 6:37 p.m.

    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=114733061870392&res=nf

    FREE THE COMMONS

  • Duncan April 5, 2010, 6:37 p.m.

    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=114733061870392&res=nf

    FREE THE COMMONS

  • Graham April 6, 2010, 7:03 p.m.

    This is a place for education, not gardening. There are plenty of areas in Victoria where you can plant vegetables for free. If you want to plant your veggies, do it there.

  • Graham April 6, 2010, 7:03 p.m.

    This is a place for education, not gardening. There are plenty of areas in Victoria where you can plant vegetables for free. If you want to plant your veggies, do it there.

  • Bahram Farzady April 6, 2010, 9:25 p.m.

    Education is not only done in the classroom. You have a narrow view of what education can consist in.

  • Bahram Farzady April 6, 2010, 9:25 p.m.

    Education is not only done in the classroom. You have a narrow view of what education can consist in.

  • A April 6, 2010, 11:27 p.m.

    The education I pay thousands of dollars for every year comes from the classroom. A classroom that the protest disturbed at a very crucial time of year. As a student working a full time job, every hour of study counts, regardless of what some above posters have said. The people the protest disturbed the most was other students. If you want to plant vegetables, do it on land you own yourself.

  • A April 6, 2010, 11:27 p.m.

    The education I pay thousands of dollars for every year comes from the classroom. A classroom that the protest disturbed at a very crucial time of year. As a student working a full time job, every hour of study counts, regardless of what some above posters have said. The people the protest disturbed the most was other students. If you want to plant vegetables, do it on land you own yourself.

  • Mijaj April 7, 2010, 2:29 p.m.

    @ A you would stifle meaningful protest for an hour of studying? what do you want to do in your life? are you interested in change? do you want to support those in our society who work for the world they want?

  • Mijaj April 7, 2010, 2:29 p.m.

    @ A you would stifle meaningful protest for an hour of studying? what do you want to do in your life? are you interested in change? do you want to support those in our society who work for the world they want?

  • Bahram Farzady April 7, 2010, 4:06 p.m.

    The education you pay for could be gained acquired far cheaper. What was Matt Damon's line in 'Good Will Hunting'? ...for $2.50 in late fines.

  • Bahram Farzady April 7, 2010, 4:06 p.m.

    The education you pay for could be gained acquired far cheaper. What was Matt Damon's line in 'Good Will Hunting'? ...for $2.50 in late fines.

  • Ross April 10, 2010, 4:36 p.m.

    @Y The guy with the hat and the loudspeaker seemed to be mocking/taunting the people watching, which included sympathetic bystanders. He just seemed to create negative vibes. Instead, they should've had a friendly person speaking, asking everyone to join together and help in a positive, non-condescending, non-preachy tone. The anarchy flag and Communist-like language made it a bit laughable to some too

    The loudspeaker guy was the best part. He was using this new-fangled comic device called sarcasm. Having someone preaching through the loudspeaker would have been too much. I thought it was masterful. A performance worthy of Ryan Levis himself.

  • Ross April 10, 2010, 4:36 p.m.

    @Y The guy with the hat and the loudspeaker seemed to be mocking/taunting the people watching, which included sympathetic bystanders. He just seemed to create negative vibes. Instead, they should've had a friendly person speaking, asking everyone to join together and help in a positive, non-condescending, non-preachy tone. The anarchy flag and Communist-like language made it a bit laughable to some too

    The loudspeaker guy was the best part. He was using this new-fangled comic device called sarcasm. Having someone preaching through the loudspeaker would have been too much. I thought it was masterful. A performance worthy of Ryan Levis himself.

 

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