UVSS censures pro-life club
Remy Hall, left, chaired the Complaints Committee that dealt with concerns over “Echoes of the Holocaust” .
Nearly four months after they hosted an event called “Echoes of the Holocaust” on campus, pro-life club Youth Protecting Youth (YPY) are seeing consequences. At their Feb. 7 meeting, the UVic Students’ Society (UVSS) voted to censure the club for violating the UVSS harassment policy in promoting the event.
The UVSS also voted to mediate a solution with YPY to “help prevent further issues,” engage legal counsel to look in to how policy can be changed to address concerns regarding off-campus speakers and groups, and have the UVSS’ Political Action Committee hold a restorative justice event.
Several complaints were filed against YPY after they held “Echoes of the Holocaust” on Oct. 26. A UVSS Complaints Committee determined that the event’s name “allowed for people to be misled about the nature of the event” and that doing so was in violation of the UVSS harassment policy.
“This is not about the content of the presentation at all,” said UVSS Chairperson James Coccola at the Feb. 7 meeting. “This is simply about how the event was marketed.”
But YPY President Anastasia Pearse says it’s unclear what, precisely, the decision was about.
“It didn’t actually say … what [it was] about the advertising. It was just that the way we advertised constituted harassment,” she said after the meeting.
“Judging from the discussion, it was because we used the terms holocaust and abortion, or genocide and abortion together in our advertising.”
Pearse says that there is nothing preventing the use of such terms.
“There’s debate in our society as to when and when not it’s appropriate to use those terms [holocaust and genocide] and in the past, it has been deemed appropriate to use the term holocaust to refer to modern day genocides. So there’s nowhere that says that we can’t use that to refer to abortion.”
There was much debate over the motion at the meeting, most of which centered on whether or not YPY’s actions constituted harassment.
Raizy Marmorstein said that, as a Jewish student, she personally felt harassed by the event’s title.
“I felt that using the word ‘the’ was targeting Jewish students and other students who were affected by the Holocaust,” she said, referencing the title “The Holocaust” as opposed to simply “a holocaust.”
UVSS Director-at-Large Rob MacDonald said that he knew people who saw the materials on campus and broke down crying and therefore he felt that the advertisements constituted harassment.
Other Board members disagreed.
“We have to make decisions as a board of directors for a diverse campus . . . there will be times in a public sphere where people will be exposed to content that they will be offended by,” said Kelsey Hannan, director of finance. “We have to let content that can be offensive be debated.”
Pearse says that while YPY disagrees there is basis for mediation and holding a restorative justice event, the group is open to dialogue. They are, however, cautious.
“We hope the goal of this dialogue and mediation isn’t to get us to apologize or something. Or to get us to say that we won’t do it again, because that would be censorship,” she said.
Still, they’re unhappy about the censure.
“We’re glad it’s not censorship. But still, the Board is going to be saying that we contravened the harassment policy, which is not the case,” said Pearse. “We understand that some women have been upset by seeing our posters. We understand that they feel that way. But just because they’ve seen something they dislike does not mean that they’re being harassed.”
At the meeting, several board members said that acknowledging that several people had felt harassed was important.
“YPY caused emotional anguish,” said UVSS Director-at-Large Dylan Sherlock. “We’re simply saying ‘you hurt some people’s feelings.’” Sherlock added that several people felt that the punishment YPY was receiving was not harsh enough.
UVSS Director of Services Remy Hall noted that the motions regarding YPY had come from a Complaints Committee that was being used for the first time.
“There are a lot of holes in the committee,” said Hall at the meeting, adding that amendments should be made in the future.
YPY’s club status and funding have been hotly contested and denied several times in recent years. In May 2010, YPY filed a petition with the B.C. Supreme Court against the UVSS demanding that, among other things, the club’s status and funding be reinstated, including funds that were denied in past years. YPY and the UVSS settled out of court on July 13. The court petition is being held in abeyance, meaning YPY can resubmit the petition in the future.

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Anonymous Feb. 10, 2011, 4:39 a.m.
Censorship.
Paul Feb. 10, 2011, 9:26 a.m.
“We’re simply saying ‘you hurt some people’s feelings.’”-Dylan Sherlock
The UVSS board is sending a pretty clear message: If someone doesn't like what you've done, you've done something wrong.
Jeremy Feb. 10, 2011, 5:45 p.m.
"UVSS Director-at-Large Rob MacDonald said that he knew people who saw the materials on campus and broke down crying and therefore he felt that the advertisements constituted harassment."
That's exactly the problem. A person's reaction to seeing something does not determine whether or not that person is being harrassed. If I broke down in tears after seeing my grade on exam resulting in me failing a course, could I claim that my professor was harrassing me?
M Feb. 10, 2011, 9:42 p.m.
Absolutely ridiculous, and I'm pro-choice.
Freedom of speech is paramount.
Dikon Feb. 10, 2011, 10:28 p.m.
Nice work to all the good people who helped push this through! Kudos! SHAME on YPY for trying to use the suffering of millions in The Holocaust to try to score political points. That type of disgusting appropriation of suffering has no justification.
Harassment is something that is based entirely on the feelings of the person affected. There is no objective standard by which harassment can be judged. I'm glad that the UVSS didn't look to some abstract category to inform their decision, and instead listened to the lived experiences of students. Good work all!
Something isn't right here Feb. 10, 2011, 11:23 p.m.
Note: The event itself was not ruled to be harassment. The advertising of the event was deemed harassment.
Yet, YPY's posters were stamped at the Info Booth in accordance with UVSS policy. Why did the UVSS approve of posters that are harassing...then turn around and censure YPY for putting them up?
Dylan Sherlock Feb. 10, 2011, 11:25 p.m.
Clarification: unlike past reactions to YPY from previous boards, there were no motions voted on for restrictions to YPY's access to funds, rooms, or ability to post materials.
The censure only has the effect of acknowledging that students had felt harassed by the actions of YPY, and that the board did not approve of this group creating such an environment of harassment. The findings from the complaints committee process stated harassment had been experienced by students, and a majority of board members voted in favor of adopting their findings.
As I stated in the board meeting, the students' society has the responsibility to find ways to foster a positive environment on campus, especially between groups which are funded by the students' society (and thus fit under our liability-- both SRJ and YPY have no recognized legal existence outside of being UVSS clubs, unless they have registered with the Registrar of Societies without telling anyone).
The decision made by the board on Monday night is a positive step forward away from creating new conflicts between pro-life and pro-choice groups and towards finding ways to accept the presence of both groups and move towards coexistence. No one should feel harassed on campus, nor should groups feel that they are being persecuted for their ideological or religious beliefs. Hopefully, folks can stop trying to create issues, and start trying to find common ground.
Remy Hall Feb. 11, 2011, 3:39 a.m.
Re: Vote Fuze (VF)
I cannot reveal whether I am running in the elction or not until the campianging period beings. That being said in the event I do run, I will not be running on a slate with Dylan Sherlock, Rob MacDonald, Jaraad Marani, and Jenn Bowie.
I'm not sure why this claim was made, nor am I sure why VF claimed I would "keep the campus pro-life harrasment free" if elected to the board, in a clearly sacrcastic manner. Those who actullay paid attention to the board meeting would know that I absatined on all votes relating to YPY, as I felt that members of the complaints committee shouldn't be voting on the recommendations of the committee. Those who have been paying attention to this issue would also know that the reccomendations from the complaints committee where not agreed upon unanimously. I did not approve of the censure, but did support the rest of the reccomendations put forth by the commitee, which had a substantial influence on the other non-censure motions passed by the board.
I am highly supportive of the media reporting on our affairs, and even more supportive of the open debates allowed in the comments of UVIC's onlined media outlets, (Martlet, EyeonUVSS, UVSS Uncovered, etc). That being said, individuals, such as VF above, should really get their facts straight before engaging in debate.
David Feb. 11, 2011, 4:57 a.m.
OMG. I guess speech is only free if Big Brother says it is. Giving an event an offensive title is not harassment. It's just offensive.
Liz Feb. 11, 2011, 8:14 a.m.
Here's why the "Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform" (Mr. Ruba's organization) thinks it's acceptable to compare abortion to genocide:
http://www.unmaskingchoice.ca/genocide.html
Ashram Feb. 11, 2011, 8:23 a.m.
@Liz,
Wow that article totally misunderstands what genocide is. What's even worse is in the process they trivialize the actual evils done against people who suffer from genocide.
YPY deserves to do whatever they want to do, but I can call them ignorant and callous. I don't really like them comparing something as simple as miscarriage to what happened to my people. It does a grave injustice to my ancestors.
Cam Feb. 11, 2011, 4:20 p.m.
To Ashram:
YPY is making no attempt at undermining the horrors that were committed against the people involved in the Holocaust or any other genocide. Our intent is not to lower the accepted status of the victims of past genocides to that of the pre-born, but rather to elevate the accepted status of the pre-born to that of the victims of past genocides.
In the case of abortion, status of personhood has been divorced from the fact of humanity, thus suggesting that not all humans are valuable as persons. The position of YPY and other pro-life individuals is that personhood can not be limitted to an elite class of humans, as we need only look at our history to see the tragedies of what happens when some lives are deemed less valuable than others.
For more informations on YPY and this presentation, please visit our blog at http://youthprotectingyouth.com/
Anon Feb. 13, 2011, 12:55 p.m.
UVic is become a giant joke because of all of this censorship and womens center stuff, starting to make me think of switching schools.
Gemma Karstens-Smith Feb. 14, 2011, 10 p.m.
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Remy Hall Feb. 15, 2011, 8:49 p.m.
Just to clarify, my comment above was to clarify that I am running independent, not that I dislike any of the Fuze members. I do not hold anything against any of the Fuze members, and quite like Jenn, Dylan,Jaraad, and Rob and have enjoyed working with them this past year. I simply did not wish to run with either of the slates available this year, as I am hoping to focus solely on events and the financial sustainability of the SUB, and not so much on the typical "political issues" that come about on our campus.